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08-09-2007 04:13 AM  10 years agoPost 1
drdot

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fwiw...

Breaking news...Washington Post reporter has files from govt.agencies indicating there has been a steady flood of Arab men across the Mex border, dating to at least '05...Texas courts getting 20 a day having their names changed to Hispanic surnames...Nobody batting an eye...Report apparently states a connection between these "OTM" illegals and the drug cartels..Imagine that!
All the while, Senor Boosh is pandering to the business and activist groups pushing for amnesty and open borders..
If one needs a reason to impeach, here it is...

B.C.

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08-09-2007 04:30 AM  10 years agoPost 2
helo_chris

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That aint breaking news. And its been happening since as early as 2001. Just not by any mainstream media source. They wouldnt want to make anyone feel "uncomfortable." A few sources have been reporting heavily on it since last year, no one wants to hear it. If this leads to another terrorist attack on US soil every member of Congress and the President should be removed from office.

http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.as...tType=Printable

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08-09-2007 04:32 AM  10 years agoPost 3
kookboy

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If this leads to another terrorist attack on US soil every member of Congress and the President should be removed from office.
They should have been removed long ago.

We need a fresh supply of 'real' Americans that call themselves 'politicians' and not the other way around.

Flamecap on

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08-09-2007 04:39 AM  10 years agoPost 4
RCHeliJim

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We need a fresh supply of 'real' Americans that call themselves 'politicians' and not the other way around.

Flamecap on
No need for the flamecap dude, very few people actually trust a career politician. I could care less rather they are Repubs or Dems - they are all in the politics business for themselves, they dont have a clue what the average middle class person goes through or wants in life. It would be a completely different country if true average Americans were more involved in national politics, but sadly a guy like me wont make enough $$ in my lifetime to even run a single legitimate nationwide campaign. Another call for zero lobby donations to individual campaigns, it should all go into a pot and all campaigns should receive equal funding

If there was a drain at the bottom of the sewer we call D.C. it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world to open it up



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08-09-2007 04:48 AM  10 years agoPost 5
flipped2left

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What we need are real americans and absolutely no politicians and get this country straightened out! screw dems and reps! get the borders closed or restricted! worry about our own people and not some raghead across the pond that did not have wmd's!!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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08-09-2007 05:13 AM  10 years agoPost 6
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how do illegal immigrants go to US courts to change their names? they can simply adopt whatever name they want. Without documentation, they are not going to be legally changing their names. And I doubt they speak latin spanish either

yes, secure the border

keepin' it real

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08-09-2007 05:34 AM  10 years agoPost 7
spaceman spiff

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they are all in the politics business for themselves, they dont have a clue what the average middle class person goes through or wants in life.
Quite possibly true, however there are a couple things that we all need to keep in mind:

1) What gets them in office and keeps them there is votes, each of those politicians even if they are complete scum will tend to behave in a way that will continue to get them votes, so there is some level of policy control held by all of us. If you elect McCain or Tancredo or Hillary, you have a pretty good idea of how each will play out diferently on big issues like war, illegals... simply by what they have said and done in the past, even if those words or actions were not out of any genuine concern for us. I'm not sure that it even matters how they feel. I only care about what they say and do.

2) We have a multi-party system. Each wanting desperatly to discredit the other(s), it is annoying to watch, but these folks are their own cops. The worse they want power for themselves the better cops they will tend to be..

By all means be watchfull and wary, but don't give up your part of it.

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08-09-2007 05:47 AM  10 years agoPost 8
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My new voting rules..

1. NEVER vote for an incumbent. Regardless of who he is running against. One term of a bad guy who wants to get re-elected is better than one term of someone who does not worry about re-election and does whatever the hell he pleases, regardless of public outcry.
2. NEVER vote someone into office who is related to someone who holds or has held similar office.
JEFF

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08-09-2007 05:48 AM  10 years agoPost 9
spaceman spiff

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Raising glass to that..

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08-09-2007 01:57 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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1. NEVER vote for an incumbent. Regardless of who he is running against. One term of a bad guy who wants to get re-elected is better than one term of someone who does not worry about re-election and does whatever the hell he pleases, regardless of public outcry.
2. NEVER vote someone into office who is related to someone who holds or has held similar office.
JEFF
I'll agree with that the whole bush, clinton, bush, and possibly clinton is a little scary.

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08-09-2007 03:31 PM  10 years agoPost 11
kookboy

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If you elect McCain or Tancredo or Hillary, you have a pretty good idea of how each will play out diferently on big issues like war, illegals... simply by what they have said and done in the past,
Somewhat disagree with that.

If you look back in political history, what one politician said or did in the past doesn't necessarily dictate what they'll do in the future.

There's many examples within our own government.

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08-09-2007 03:54 PM  10 years agoPost 12
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The last thing on earth that we need is a continuation of the One World Order, click. Clinton put us on the road to ruin with NAFTA. Bush is pushing it to the limit. and we don't need a Clinton, sitting in the Oval Office, on the rag, and having hormone problems.
don't vote for the dynasty crowd, and don't vote for an incumbent. This whole crew needs a long vacation., preferably in Iraq.
Take this country back this next election, or never bitch again.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

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08-09-2007 06:13 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Pistol Pete

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Take this country back this next election,
and exactly how does that work?

by voting?

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~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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08-10-2007 12:45 AM  10 years agoPost 14
flipped2left

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not really the topic but this gives you an idea as to how our tax system is screwed up!

College student who caught Bonds ball tells 'Today' he may not sell
Even if he does not sell the ball, Murphy would still owe the taxes based on a reasonable estimate of its value, according to John Barrie, a tax lawyer with Bryan Cave LLP in New York. Capital gains taxes also could be levied in the future as the ball gains value, he said.
Posted Aug 9, 2007 02:07 PM PST
Category: TAXES

This is one of those times when the tax laws go from being merely persecution into being just plain out of their %#@%ing minds silly!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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08-10-2007 01:02 AM  10 years agoPost 15
philip 01

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any chance that 'voting' may be a sham and our presidents are 'appointed' by the global financial elite? or the controllers of the 'new world order'?

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08-10-2007 02:00 AM  10 years agoPost 16
jimco

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With our electorial college BS system, its very likely. Your rep takes a block of votes to the convention. If he gets a better deal from the other side. he can pledge your vote, in that block, to the other side. And you just got screwed again.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

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08-10-2007 02:34 AM  10 years agoPost 17
helo_chris

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Capital gains taxes also could be levied in the future as the ball gains value, he said.
Sounds like they need to find a better tax lawyer. Capital gains taxes are levied against the sale of assets. Not based on the value of owning one.
any chance that 'voting' may be a sham and our presidents are 'appointed' by the global financial elite? or the controllers of the 'new world order'?
That would be more likely to happen if people didnt vote. Look back at the history of the system, it hasnt happened where it affected the outcome of an election. Face it, the systems works the way it was intended to.

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08-10-2007 02:36 AM  10 years agoPost 18
philip 01

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yes, and it certainly seems to be working for us. at least we have great people to vote for....

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08-10-2007 02:37 AM  10 years agoPost 19
spaceman spiff

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like i said before:

By all means be watchfull and wary, but don't give up your part of it.

Worried about voting machine fraud? Go bug your local election board and bug them to get good machines like we have here in AZ. (machine reads big paper cards which serve as back up or to verifi machines count isn't tampered with) Who knows, maybe they need volunteers... ?
Your rep takes a block of votes to the convention.
Has there EVER been a case where the rep placed those votes other than the count told him to?

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08-10-2007 03:04 AM  10 years agoPost 20
BJames111

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wanna think of something scary? .... I can forsee the "decider" making some sort of decision to postpone the election because of the "war".

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