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HelicopterAerial Photography and Video › is there a benefit to using a dslr versus​something like a sony v3 7.2
08-11-2007 01:11 PM  10 years agoPost 61
AceBird

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Same amount of skill, Less amount of time.
Ok, I can see I am hurting your feelings ...
If a P&S comes along with an a everything you need lens that can replace the 5 lenses
Now I didn't say that. It still is going to take multiple lenses. That's the reason for the c-mount. Sure you can combine some with a zoom but you know yourself that is usually a compromise. Anytime there is vibration present it is better to have a fixed lens. Most applications in industry are fixed lens.

The c-mount is half the size of the SLR mount so just because of that fact the quality goes up and the price goes down. The digital aspect of the ccd has the ability of increasing exposure. The software (processing end) has the ability to make up for almost any imperfection. We wouldn't be getting photographs from distant galaxies if this wasn't true.

Someone mentioned $5000 on camera bodies and $5000 on lenses to support it. Certainly if you have this kind of investment you are well within the budget of an industrial solution. The camera and the lens are quite affordable. It’s the software that is the big ticket. For AP I would suspect the downlink would be a serious investment also but this would be a one time purchase that would have other uses.

Ace
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08-11-2007 02:31 PM  10 years agoPost 62
CKY

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huh ??

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08-11-2007 04:00 PM  10 years agoPost 63
Louisiana Helicam

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He's just blabbing again. Ignore it.

www.louisianahelicam.com

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08-11-2007 05:00 PM  10 years agoPost 64
R Hudson

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Ace is very anti-SLR.

There's a lot to be said for the "feel" of the camera as well.

Are you suggesting shooting hand-held with an industrial camera attached to a separate power source and connected to a laptop at the same time? Edit: Ok, I know we're talking primarily about AP, but it has become a SLR argument of sorts.

That sounds very cumbersome to me.

SLR's are here for a while yet.

I won't even say anything about how important different lens combinations are for getting different results in an image. DOF, Bokeh, etc.

OOOPS! I guess I did.

It's not only about high-tech. It's about creativity, skill, and being in the right place at the right time.

Ace, you're an "Equipment Measurbator".

See this article (scroll down to your part in Level 1):

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm

You go ahead keep blabbing about the obsolescence of the SLR and the rest of us will go out and actually take pictures instead.

R

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08-11-2007 06:29 PM  10 years agoPost 65
LTP

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Ok, I can see I am hurting your feelings ...
Are you kidding me? Is this even a serious statement? With new technology comes new things to learn and new skills to master. It's true that I spent less time at a job site working, but now I have to go home and spend a couple of hours in Photoshop processing images. A digital camera is not going to go to a house for me, set up lighting, take correct angles and take the picture for me. The photographer still has to do all the work. The same as a heli with the AP 2000i. It's not going to fly for me, take the picture, land and process them in photoshop for me. (I'm sure John is working hard to add that feature to the GSR). The AP helps but the pilot still has to fly the Heli specially in an emergency.

The point is that new technology helps the proffessional but with new technology there is additional skills to master.

Now back to the topic at hand. Is there anyone that is flying an Align 600 that can help the person who started this post. I have a gasser so no experience with small electrics. I'm not sure what load the 600 can carry.

Luis

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08-11-2007 08:14 PM  10 years agoPost 66
Ben H

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My regular AP setup is Trex 600, all up weight is 4.5Kg (about 10lbs). This is with my canon A620 (I tried the 640 this week, but the quality was not as good as the 620!! I think it must be having more cells squashed onto the same size ccd).

If I put my Nikon D70 on the Askman mount, the trex will lift it ok, but it won't Autorotate. I can just about carry out a vertical auto with the Point and shoot Canon on the mount. I concider it important to have a set up that is as safe as possible, especially when operating profesionally.

So although the rex will fly with a DSLR and AUW of 12lbs, I wouldn't recommend it. I'm getting a Maxi joker for the heavy stuff.

Keep it Safe for all our benifit!

Ben.... "what goes up, must come down!"

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08-11-2007 09:13 PM  10 years agoPost 67
AceBird

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Are you suggesting shooting hand-held with an industrial camera attached to a separate power source and connected to a laptop at the same time?
Yes and no. You certainly could do this and for tripod situations it would actually be easier. What I am actually saying is the root purpose for the slr doesn't exist anymore. You don't need a mirror mechanism and a mechanical shutter anymore and you don't need a 3 pound lens for a ccd sensor that is smaller then a dime. It would greatly improve the AP application because it is already an industrial application. You are using a machine to take the photo. There is no hand held feel. So does that mean the artistry is gone? I don't think so.
Ace, you're an "Equipment Measurbator".
Maybe I am but I am noted for taking the cheapest way out in the long run. The term says that I should use a Cannon slr though.

BTW the power source for many industrial camera is 12V @ around 200ma and the connection is literally a flexible phone cord. The ccd's are a better quality than what you would find in an slr but basically the same. It is the firmware that makes the difference and that is why they can get 5 to 10 grand for it.

Ace
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08-11-2007 11:42 PM  10 years agoPost 68
LTP

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My regular AP setup is Trex 600, all up weight is 4.5Kg (about 10lbs).
Holy $h1t Ben, My pro 1 mount with KS2 gyro and the Canon 20d weigh about 10.5 lbs. I never thought an Align 600 could lift that much weight. That's about 3 lbs more than the heli itself I would imagine.

Luis

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08-12-2007 01:08 AM  10 years agoPost 69
Hatim Saeed

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Nikon D40 Review

I think D40 is perfect for RC heli.
I have had great results with it.
Have a look at my gallery. All Images are done with Nikon D40
http://www.choppershoot.com

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08-13-2007 09:26 PM  10 years agoPost 70
Ben H

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Holy $h1t Ben, My pro 1 mount with KS2 gyro and the Canon 20d weigh about 10.5 lbs. I never thought an Align 600 could lift that much weight. That's about 3 lbs more than the heli itself I would imagine.
The 600 lifts it with plenty to spare. the heli weighs 7lb including a 4300mah 2cell FP for running all the electrical gear. so your spot on in your estimation!

Ben.... "what goes up, must come down!"

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