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08-07-2007 04:37 PM  10 years agoPost 21
MJWS

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You aren't going to get 3000w bursts out of a 6s rig. OP limited the question pretty well.

It isn't apples and oranges. 1.9 HP is only 1496 watts, and vendor rated HP is complete and total BS. Stock they are pretty close, with the E taking an early lead then falling off. However, if you put an efficient HV rig in there isn't a nitro of any size that can even come close. The E guys can double a 90's output without trying and still make weight. It's only money and flight time that gets in the way.

Give me 5 grand extra for flight packs and I'll take the electric every time. You're gonna be pissed when you dork it and do $600 in packs along with the airframe.

For just plain fuel and fly fun, cheap, great power to weight and low crash costs the 50 is fantastic. It's no coincidence they are so popular.

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08-07-2007 04:40 PM  10 years agoPost 22
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If by power you mean horsepower its simple. OS .50 hyper is 1.9, Neu 1515/2.5D/F is 3.43 (eagletree). That's 1.5 hp difference.

I'd race you guys for pink slips, but what would I do with all those slimers.

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08-07-2007 04:41 PM  10 years agoPost 23
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I used to run my aerial photography business with a 50-sized nitro. It lifted the weight ok but got jerked around pretty good in turns, etc. My 600E lifts my camera gear so well that I hardly notice it's there. It turns and swings the load without issue. My reasons for my vote are simple....I've seen it, felt it, not going back.

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08-07-2007 04:43 PM  10 years agoPost 24
Carey

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I'd race you guys for pink slips, but what would I do with all those slimers.
I'll take that bet.

The race is 20 miles long, 1/4 mile circuit.

Still in?

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08-07-2007 04:47 PM  10 years agoPost 25
SSN Pru

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The race is 20 miles long, 1/4 mile circuit.
HAHA, gonna have to have some quick pit stops with the T600E.

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08-07-2007 04:49 PM  10 years agoPost 26
steph280

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The electric gives you much more flexibility with motor/timing/battery/gear. If you want to break the world speed record, you can run 15s with some monster motor which probably no nitro can touch. If you want duration, you can run some massive capacity packs on a low kv motor which will outfly glow setup. With nitro you are pretty much stuck with limited selections.

But the OP's question was on stock setup, so this may not apply.

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08-07-2007 04:50 PM  10 years agoPost 27
SSN Pru

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well, with nitro for speed you could stuff a bigger engine in it. for duration you could just carry a larger fuel tank...

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08-07-2007 04:53 PM  10 years agoPost 28
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Give me 5 grand extra for flight packs and I'll take the electric every time. You're gonna be pissed when you dork it and do $600 in packs along with the airframe.

For just plain fuel and fly fun, cheap, great power to weight and low crash costs the 50 is fantastic. It's no coincidence they are so popular.
that pretty much sums up the better class of electrics,they can be awsome but you pay dearly for it.
for $15 you can buy a gallon of fuel and fly,minimun for electric is $250 to $300 (5 cases of fuel)to get the first flight.

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08-07-2007 04:56 PM  10 years agoPost 29
jaxrotor

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What about head speeds and gearing?? electrics have less power and not as efficent at lower speeds?? wouldnt set up also have alot to do with this?

OS 50 =17000 rpm=1.9hp?
ele=??=??

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08-07-2007 05:02 PM  10 years agoPost 30
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Hint: Much more than 1.9hp...lol.

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08-07-2007 05:05 PM  10 years agoPost 31
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20 miles? That's desperate! Racing for "pinks" is commonly known to be an invitation to drag race. 1/4 mile automotive standard. Not sure what the RC heli standard is.
I guess I could DETUNE my E to your performance level and put to rest that "short flight" story you slowpolks keep yackin' about.

All kidding aside, my buddy flies the N and it is pretty impressive, but the E has the edge. And with 8, 10, or even 12s it has tons more potential. AP is a good example.

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08-07-2007 05:38 PM  10 years agoPost 32
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Exactly, the E offers more flexibility. It's pretty simple to tame it down or turn it into a monster if you want to. I can get longer run times with plenty of power if I want to, or I can make it ballistic for a shorter period of time.

Power is only one part of the equation.

I love my 10S monster. I flew it in an open lot a couple days ago which was surrounded by homes. I think a Nitro would have had the cops there in no time...

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08-07-2007 05:43 PM  10 years agoPost 33
QueeQueg

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Heli drag racing is 100yds from sitting on the ground with your rotor screaming.

The reining IRCHA champ Ken Jennings flys a Neu 1515 powered Xero G with 620s and whips anything he flys it against including 700mm Ehelis.

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08-07-2007 07:23 PM  10 years agoPost 34
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It depends on the set up... But I can definitively say that my 600e smokes my 600n and both are set up similar, by me.

600e
6S 25C 5000mAh Flight Power
Align 600XL
Castle 85hv
13t Helical Gear

600n
OS 50 Hyper
MP5
30% Nitro

The 600e is absolutely ballistic for about 4 min the way I like to fly. Then the battery is dead

I like the 600n B/C it flies 200% longer and I can't kill the equivalent of 17 gallons of fuel (300$ battery) in a single crash.

In fact, the 600XL had so much power I decided to put my 600L back in it to get 6 min flight times and it still has good power.

Helicopters - 1000 parts flying in formation.

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08-07-2007 07:42 PM  10 years agoPost 35
DS 8717

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Exactly, the E offers more flexibility. It's pretty simple to tame it down
Yea all you have to do is fly it for a couple of minutes and it will be toned down.

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08-07-2007 08:23 PM  10 years agoPost 36
Louisiana Helicam

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Nitro: Cheap hooker...takes a while...less thrill

Electric: Very expensive hooker...things happen fast...awesome thrill

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08-07-2007 08:35 PM  10 years agoPost 37
jaxrotor

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If the Es have more power,why is the blade grips beefed up on the nitros and e blade grips split when installed on nitros?(plastic ones)

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08-07-2007 08:39 PM  10 years agoPost 38
QueeQueg

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Must be the vibration from the IC engine.

Last year an IC heli threw a blade in the drags. It was turning around 2000 head speed.

50 sized E helis turn the rotors up to 2200 without exploding. I don't but its not uncommon.

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08-07-2007 08:42 PM  10 years agoPost 39
SSN Pru

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If the Es have more power,why is the blade grips beefed up on the nitros and e blade grips split when installed on nitros?(plastic ones)
Your question is interesting because the amount of power produced by the power plant has nothing to do with the required strength of the blade grips. the weight of the blades and RPM dictate the centrifugal forces acting on the blade grip bolt holes.

a modest increase in weight could negatively impact the strength of the grips as well considering they have to carry that much more weight.

Perhaps align has realized that thier second revision wasnt strong enough and has redesigned them again?

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08-07-2007 08:46 PM  10 years agoPost 40
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Nitro: Cheap hooker...takes a while...less thrill
and you end up with drips.

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