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08-07-2007 09:46 AM  10 years agoPost 1
Prophet

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T-rex 600e with 600XL motor and 6S 25C 5000mah lipo.
or
T-rex 600n with OS hyper engine and 30% nitro.

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08-07-2007 11:47 AM  10 years agoPost 2
Mr Joshua

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I would have to give the edge to the apple for the first few mins, then the orange will take the lead, then the apple has to land after 5-6 mins. From 6 to 12 mins only the orange is in the air, so as long as it can hover it's got more power.

Hope this helped!

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08-07-2007 12:47 PM  10 years agoPost 3
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haha right on....

if you dont consider run time, the electric will have more power, even on 6S.

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08-07-2007 01:35 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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Quote from a dedicated electric flyer after flying a 600N,"i thought electrics were suppose to have more power?"

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08-07-2007 01:57 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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I'll be the first to say that my 600E has more power than any 600N that I've seen.

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08-07-2007 02:04 PM  10 years agoPost 6
RobRoy

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Stock for Stock, I give the edge to the 600N, take the E up to 10s, and it takes over, but then again, I suppose you could always stuff a 90 into the 600N. Like previously stated "apples to oranges"

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08-07-2007 02:17 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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Seams like a simple question to me?

Its the same as... "Which one is faster, this mustang or camaro?"
Not an even comparison.. but no reason to say "apples to oranges"

But it appears to those who did answer, that its a matter of opinion rather than fact, as it seems to change with who you ask.

Buy em both, and fly em both. Then let us know :-P

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08-07-2007 02:29 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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Its the same as... "Which one is faster, this mustang or camaro?"
Not an even comparison.. but no reason to say "apples to oranges"
Sorry, not that simple. Analogies almost always fall short, as does the mustang vs camaro example. Both of those cars are in the same category; muscle cars.

If one of those cars could go (just pulling random figures) 120mph for 6 minutes, and the other could go 100 for 12 mins, how would you compare them?

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08-07-2007 02:31 PM  10 years agoPost 9
Louisiana Helicam

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Time is not the factor here...power is. My 600E will outrun any 600N hands down. I've seen it, done it....lived to tell the story.

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08-07-2007 02:39 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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Yah.. he's not asking about durations...
He's asking about power...

I agree.. my analogie is a bit short... but...

Both machines are made by the same company. Alot of the parts are interchangable.. the real difference lies in the power plant. (atleast thats what i think...)

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08-07-2007 02:41 PM  10 years agoPost 11
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It's pretty easy to get peaks over 3000Ws from a 600mm E heli.

That's just over 4HP!

Which 50 engine can put that much out

Going to 10S doesn't raise the weight while stuffing a 90 in would make it weigh nearly as much as a 90 with a smaller disc.

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08-07-2007 03:01 PM  10 years agoPost 12
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You don't think a 10s pack weighs more than a 6s?
I saw a raptor 50 big block conversion with a 90 in it come in under the 10lb mark. That's still pretty light.

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08-07-2007 03:11 PM  10 years agoPost 13
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You don't have to run the same size pack, I mean MAHs.

At higher voltage it takes less amperage so you get the same flight time with more efficiency / power with a higher cell count of smaller lighter batteries!

As hard as a 6S Trex is on packs you might even be able to put a lighter 10S pack together that won't fry when you get a little carried away.

Is 50 / 90 you're talking about strecthed? if not that's where the extra poound is. The longer blades longer tail and bigger head.

You could even begin to load a 90 with 620s until 16* of pitch. It's just not a good combo.

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08-07-2007 03:21 PM  10 years agoPost 14
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What has more power? T-rex 600e or T-rex 600n?
With that statement, are u asking about vertical climbout when you punch it, lifting capability, or speed in FFF? It all depends on heli power to weight ratio and what displacement engine / battery capacity you are talking about.

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08-07-2007 03:32 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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The question is flawed, and too 'simple' regardless.

What has more power, a dragster or F1 car?

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08-07-2007 04:00 PM  10 years agoPost 16
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I dont see the flaw or the apples to oranges argument here.

both heli's have, for all intents and purposes, the same airframe and a close disk loading. Now all you are left with is the power source...

If the question were, "what has more power, a raptor .50 or a t600N?" then that question is flawed and the apples to oranges analogy works. The airframes and designs are just different.

With the T600E and T600N, the head is the same, the blades are the same. The only different is the power plant.

Nitro, pound for pound just can not compete with E-power.

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08-07-2007 04:16 PM  10 years agoPost 17
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If the question were, "what has more power, a raptor .50 or a t600N?" then that question is flawed and the apples to oranges analogy works. The airframes and designs are just different
THE 600N would have more power because it's over a pound lighter,and the head is more efficiant.

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08-07-2007 04:20 PM  10 years agoPost 18
tadawson

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Well, a hand grenade puts out a lot of power for a very short interval too, but you don't see many folks wanting to fly that either! I think that discounting the duration of availability of power is a critical mistake that the electric guys choose to overlook to mask the limitations of their power system . . . . If you want to go ballistic for a very brief period, then go for it, but (much like the grenade) I want more time, and nitro gives me that, with power that is not that much less (especially over the duration of the flight). So, if you define power as total energy available, and not just "burst", nitro wins. If you look at just burst, electric wins. And if this was a poll, I would have to choose C) Carrots . . . .

- Tim

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08-07-2007 04:21 PM  10 years agoPost 19
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THE 600N would have more power because it's over a pound lighter,and the head is more efficiant.
The weight of the bird and the head design have nothing to do with how much power is applied by the engine. To answer the question, they are equally powerful assuming they use a .50 hyper or the same engine.

The difference is, as you pointed out, which heli has the better power loading and disc loading?

I cant answer as I havent flown either one but I will guess that you are correct in saying that the T600N is superior.

Now, that was an offshoot of the topic, back to businesss...

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08-07-2007 04:36 PM  10 years agoPost 20
RAK402

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I have a 600E and have flown a 600N once.

Ok, so its a small sample size...

The 600E has the stock motor (not the XL) and SAB blades.

The 600N has an OS .50 Hyper w/Hatori pipe and V blades.

Both had the control throws set up "lock to lock"

The 600N had more power and was more nimble. The 600E was smoother and more predictable.

I really think I need a 600N so that I can run side by side comparisons over a long period of time...

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