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08-09-2007 06:44 PM  10 years agoPost 61
Raffy

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The fast lane > 3D M-oney

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08-09-2007 06:55 PM  10 years agoPost 62
fixxxer

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I'm like everybody else, I don't mind paying the money as long as the venue & orginization is good of which neither were.

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08-09-2007 07:51 PM  10 years agoPost 63
Pinkbike

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One positive thing... Is that I met 'Rocket Ron Haslam'

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08-09-2007 08:15 PM  10 years agoPost 64
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come on then lets see the picture pinkie

How was I to know she had a wooden leg

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08-09-2007 10:41 PM  10 years agoPost 65
Pinkbike

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...couldn't resist BA.
Sorry I am far too ugly to post a picture of me..

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08-09-2007 10:48 PM  10 years agoPost 66
fixxxer

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Excuse my ignorance but is that the TT man ?

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08-10-2007 07:27 AM  10 years agoPost 67
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Hey Pinkie, i know you love me to bits but you can't pass yourself off as me, now put the photo up of you and the 'Rocket'

How was I to know she had a wooden leg

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08-10-2007 04:44 PM  10 years agoPost 68
Pinkbike

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Yes 'Rocket the legend Ron' of the TT and anything two wheels with a gurt engine

Haslam was runner-up in the 750 British championship in 1975, ‘76 and ‘77 and second in the British Formula One series in 1978. Between 1979 and ‘84 he won four British titles, the 1979 British TT Formula One, the 1981 MCN British Streetbike - when he won seven out of eight rounds - the 1982 British TT Formula One and the 1984 ITV World of Sport Superbike series. He has also won three World titles - the TT Formula One crown in 1979 and ‘81 and the TT Formula Three championship in 1980. Haslam won the gruelling Macau GP six times – a record. He was also runner-up in the 1982 TT Formula One World series. He is a world speed record holder, after his efforts on the 500 Elf on a private, banked circuit in France in 1986, when he claimed the Flying kilometre, the Standing Start mile and Standing Start 10 kilometre records.

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08-10-2007 04:45 PM  10 years agoPost 69
Pinkbike

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Hey Pinkie, i know you love me to bits but you can't pass yourself off as me, now put the photo up of you and the 'Rocket'
Sorry Below Average but I do not know what you mean?

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08-10-2007 05:53 PM  10 years agoPost 70
fixxxer

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Ah righty, so he's a bit good then

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08-10-2007 06:45 PM  10 years agoPost 71
Pinkbike

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Yeah he's been around a bit.....

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08-10-2007 06:46 PM  10 years agoPost 72
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Anything I missed Ron?

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08-10-2007 07:30 PM  10 years agoPost 73
pcmpete

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Anything I missed Ron?
Yes, he also loves Hirobo Freya's

Pete B

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10-15-2007 12:43 AM  10 years agoPost 74
Yug

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I've been to 3d Masters for the last 4 years (3 day pass & accomodation) and am naffed off that there is no official DVD for the last 2 years, British weather is crap 50% of the time, the food laid on is crap and expensive for what it is and a shortsightedness in contingency plans given the unpredictability of our weather. One thing that really p!ssed me off this year was the miserable Friday; you've got the top pilots in the world who've all made a big effort to get there, there's an indoor flying area and just a few token demos. What the hell's that all about Bad organisation and little effort to make good contingency plans, at least for the spectators who will all have been chomping at the bit to be at THE event. Sadly, as positive as I was, even a couple of years back (& even then the sunday was rained off), this year left a bad taste in my mouth for many reasons and i'm questioning whether I'll bother next year
Poor show

Vegetable rights and Peace

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10-18-2007 09:32 PM  10 years agoPost 75
bagobitz

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Conveyor belt thread's gone quiet, so i wound up here.
First,- there is no restriction on "private use" video
Second, MONEY. Having been involved in several trade-shows, I know the enormous costs faced by the organisers. Venue charges usually start from "first foot in the door"
outdoor venues have to hire portable bogs, water supplies, fire-fighting facilities, policing, first-aid, sign posting, local gov't permits, statutory press amnnouncements advertising, brochures (for visitors AND for potential exhibitors)
......
Ever tried getting electricity laid on to temporary stands?

yup, even a 1/2 -day show, 10 am -4 pm on a Sunday, still cost over 20K to stage in a hall in Blackpool!(rent had to be paid for the setting-up day AND the clearing-day (despite the fact almost everyone was away by 8 PM.
I can't say what sort of money was-or wasn't made, but if the event is run as a limited company, a search should establish some idea. likewise if a private club does it...the members should have access to "the books"
An enormous amount of effort goes into getting bookings, making sure they actually show, laying on their requested facilities..and getting PAID!
I've seen a "regular" exhibitor banned, because organisers wound up with legal action in order to get paid!
the entry price structure DOES seem odd!...there again, look at rail fares!...They're structured (supposedly)to encourage you to use the facilities outwith of the peak period.

IF that field was farmland, it will have needed a substantial amount of preparatory work to make it fit for flying....also it would take a while to recover...so, 3 day event could quite easily take the ground out for 3-6 weeks....that bumps up the hire! and, yes, I agree contingency should be properly thought out...you should expect fair value for your money....the crappy food is , again down to the cost of pitching up,versus the expected return.....if it pees down, there's all the unsold perishables,cost to get there and back, cost of pitch....and the caterer has to pay his staff as well...so how much do you want to flog your nuts off all weekend????
just playing devils advocate here, not taking sides. I wouldn't pay that sort of figure either...I don't value that sort of event that highly.....there again, I don't go to the F1 Grand Prix at Silverstone... They put up more stands (COST TO USE) leaving less banking...and seemed to let more people in! VFM fell to low for me, I voted with my feet!

£dm will find it's own level in the marketplace..if that's too low to be worthwhile, it will collapse.

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