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HelicopterScale Model RC Helicopters › MH60L project finally started
01-19-2003 05:14 PM  15 years agoPost 1
bhtmec2

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Well I have been very busy the last 4 months and I have finally been able to start my Century Black Hawk project. Well I plan on building a MH60L version of the Black Hawk. There will be a major makeover of the Century body to produce my toy.

Due to my job I think that it may be 3-4 months before it is finished. Another factor that affects my progress is that I have to order all my supplies from the US. It usually takes 2 weeks for the US mail to arrive. Well here are some photos of the kit and my progress to date.

Fixed my problem thanks to Mark. Try this link. Not all but give me a day or two:

http://runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/3886/

I will keep adding photos as I make progress.

Bryan

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01-19-2003 09:11 PM  15 years agoPost 2
jrav8er

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Sorry but your link to your pictures is not working I would love to see your progress on the MH60K Special Ops Helo
Jim

So many helicopters so little time

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01-19-2003 10:00 PM  15 years agoPost 3
vetrider

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MH-60L ........There is a MH model of the Blackhawk that is an "L" model so don't let the MH designation fool ya, James D (jrav8er).
I figuring that Brian has worked with the MH-60L. It doesn't look too different on the outside but there is quite a differance in systems onboard.

OH ........and yeah Fix the link, Brian.

Nolan

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01-20-2003 01:36 AM  15 years agoPost 4
bhtmec2

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Sorry the link is not working I will check and try to fix it on Monday. First time at this web publishing.

Your right the MH60L on the outside is mostly the same as the other models of the blackhawk. The stabilizer, radar, flir, engine covers are the main external differences.

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01-20-2003 01:45 AM  15 years agoPost 5
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Here's a pic of a MH-60K that I just scanned in from a print I have from Sikorsky. I reduced it down to a 1024x768 image so it would work well for a wallpaper if you want. This one has the gull wing external stores and external fuel tanks (one per side). They also use the normal ESSS (external stores support system) that has two mounts per side as the normal UH-60's use but its not on this one in this picture.

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01-20-2003 02:19 AM  15 years agoPost 6
vetrider

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Dont' tell but.....
Here's a few MH's on a cold day. couple more in my gallery.

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Nolan

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01-20-2003 03:26 AM  15 years agoPost 7
bhtmec2

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I KNOW WHERE YOU SHOT THOSE!

Spent a lot of time being trucked around the globe in them.

Bryan

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01-20-2003 09:57 PM  15 years agoPost 8
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Hmmm...

Might that be Green Ramp (or someplace close to it) at Pope? Or perhaps the field at Fort Campbell? (Can't remember the name- was only there once)

Those are MH-47 'Hooks, yes? And the Herc is a bit of a give-away...

Steve

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01-21-2003 01:02 AM  15 years agoPost 9
vetrider

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OH YEAH....nothing like standing under the rotor wash on a blaskhawk then after he taxies away going to launch the 47 when it's in the teens outside!

hint hint Location: <<<<<<<<<<<

Nolan

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01-21-2003 03:37 AM  15 years agoPost 10
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Got it, vet. There and Pope are probably the only two places with MH-47s, so it wasn't too hard to figure out.

You by any chance aren't going through Selection for the 160th, are you?

Steve

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01-21-2003 03:58 AM  15 years agoPost 11
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Starting my Post finally
Here is the link. Not all my photos but give me a few days. It takes a lot of time to up load from Peru.
http://runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/3886/

Oh yes that is the ramp at Ft Campbell Ky. TF of old and 160th (Night Staukers) of today are the only real Combat Helocopter Pilots that there are. I would not be here today if it was not for them on several ocasions.
Bryan

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01-21-2003 04:44 AM  15 years agoPost 12
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Evidently you have never received one of those solicitation letters from the organization who is nameless but does state directly in the letter, "This is NOT a solicitation for the 160th SOAR." Now those guys make the 160th look amaturistic in their recruiting standards, selection and assessment process.

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01-21-2003 03:13 PM  15 years agoPost 13
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No I was just one of those non-existent guys who they had to fly around. TF was our taxi to work and back.

Bryan

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01-21-2003 03:15 PM  15 years agoPost 14
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Bryan,

Is that the Century BlackHawk kit?

Brian,

All of this is a bit after my time, but I was told that 160th pilots go through a selection process similar to, but of course not as strenuous as, the nameless guys who live on the Range 19 complex and who are supported by the 160th.

Or are you saying that there is yet another spec ops aviation unit in the army?

Steve

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01-21-2003 03:29 PM  15 years agoPost 15
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I might bend some noses here but.... the 160th has turned into nothing but the ranger's taxi service. The 160th is not a classified unit anymore and hasn't been for a long time since they went by another name such as C-158th or so. The other unit I am refering to still is.

The pilots go through a selection process but it is nothing but meeting certain flight hour requirements before selection, going through their trainup time in the green platoon and so on. In fact, at one time (not sure if now still or not) but they were sending W01 warrant officers right out of flight school there. Enlisted wise, one can come down on orders to send you there without any selection process (still go through their green platoon). This I know, I have come down on orders for them twice. One year, I was on orders for them, went to the PCS breifing and there they had another assignment sending me to the 1st special forces group (back when they had their own aviation assets) and an approved extension in my current location. It was all a deal provided for me from my outgoing 1SG who was ex-special forces. I told him I wanted to do one, but couldn't make up my mind... well he left, a month later I get the levey notices and that day I had to make up my mind what one I wanted to do.

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01-21-2003 03:37 PM  15 years agoPost 16
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Oh, forgot your last question. Yes, there is another aviation special ops unit. I do not know many details on them. But their selection process is like no one other's.

160th: go to a breif, they tell you who they are and if you want to try out come back at 13:00 and get the PT test.

Delta: same as 160th

Other unit: get a letter saying they are a special ops aviation unit recruiting people, tell you the uniform, time and place for a PT test and specifically says "This is NOT a solicitation for the 160th SOAR"

If you pass the PT test, then you are invited to a classified briefing.

The unit's assessment course if you are selected and go is the same as Delta's. I have seen pilots come back from it in crutches and had to use a cane for two years afterwards.

All the pilots in that unit are multi-aircraft rated and fly just about every heli, civilian and military.

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01-21-2003 04:19 PM  15 years agoPost 17
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1. Century kit but I am going to mod it a lot.

2. Yes 160 has a strenious eval and selection process but remember they are pilots. It is quite a task passing and they are good, a different breed than normal pilots. Yes 160 has changed but the 1st BN is still better than the rest. The Ranger Rgt is one of the pri clients but they are support to my old unit.

3. Yes there is another unit. Nothing more on that issue.

Bryan

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01-21-2003 07:17 PM  15 years agoPost 18
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Yes, they are a different breed of pilot in the SOAR. I've noticed that in the last 7 years of testing with these fellow I'd have to say that they pilot for pilot are a notch above the average Army aviators in skills and specifically mission management. Even the AH-64D pilots don't have the menu selection and depth that the MH series helo's have.
Often the Project officer doesn't have a fellow SIMO unit pilot to fly our test profiles so we borrow one from a unit. I've never seen one that couldn't handle the flight profile required to get the consistent DATA we need to make these heli better and more manageable. BTW... we do require much tighter requirements than the average insertion or extraction, and NOE (Nap of the earth, low level terrain following) as we test to the limits of the available equipment.

Steve, I'm a contractor to the Army Aviation Technical Test Center at Ft. Rucker.

Brian, I believe I've seen the unit your talking about as they....uuhhh...mingle with local units but their aircrafts are setup slightly different and they ALWAYS seem ready to go!

Nolan

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01-21-2003 08:50 PM  15 years agoPost 19
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Thats it they are gone on a moments notice. and not excuses.

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01-21-2003 09:13 PM  15 years agoPost 20
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How interesting, regarding that "other" spec ops aviation unit. First I've heard of them.

Cassini, Delta's Selection is a bit more involved than "come back at 1330 for the PT test." That much , I do know.

Thanks for the info, guys.

Steve

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