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01-17-2003 03:03 PM  15 years agoPost 41
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Hey guys,

I have dealt with Keith, and my deals with him have been fine. I even traded for a motorcycle from him. So I think he is a pretty good guy.

I think there is something to both sides, but it sounds as if it has degenerated into a shouting war, and i know that Keith can be hardheaded. I posted this on HeliHanger this morning with the hopes that he will try to sit down and get this resolved.

Well, I have refrained from saying anything the last couple of days, But Frosty, you have got to do something about this. In this game, we only have our good word, and we need to do all we can to keep it that way.

Just washing your hands of it will not make it go away. And having yourself deleted just made it look all that much worse. You aare getting dragged through the mud there and it is already beginning to spill over here.

Take the time to deal with it and list what has transpired. I know that almost all of your deals have been good, but right now you have a bad one happening.

I had a bad deal with someone who pretty much bent me over the barrel and now is doing the dame thing that you are doing. Blocking my emails, not answering the phone, ect. But I have gone the extra mile to do what is right. He looks like the ass at this point, so no one will deal with him right now. Do not let that happen with you. Someone recognized this on that other site and expressed that your deal with him went well. I am going to do the same as well as posting this. Hopefully, you guys can come to an understanding and at least make it a workable deal.


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01-17-2003 04:52 PM  15 years agoPost 42
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I agree David-- I will and have talked with Frosty about this unfortunate instance and agree that it needs to be resolved! But it has to be resolved by Frosty and Quick/TechnikVR--no one else can and everyone throwing thier $.02 in probably is making it worse. I have traded several things with Frosty and they have been good--things sometimes arent what people expect--one persons interpritation of "Good" is "Poor" to another-- .

Not in anyones defense but Frosty is "new" to helis and was probably going off of what the person he got the Rap 50 from told him. Maybe that is something that needs to be asked before engaging in a purchase or sale with someone--- "How long have you been in the great hobby" Someone who has been doing heli's for 3-6 months probably doesnt know about the bearing wear and what to look for in a engine to see if it has been run lean or hot, or about Dampners or where or how to check for stress fractures and other things that can and probably will go wrong with Heli's or anything mechanical for that fact.

Quick/TechnikVR -- I think if you will talk with Frosty he is more than willing to get this straightend out-- I just think he is a little frazzeled and felt backed into a coner and then he just freaked on some of the threats that he has been getting.

I am more than willing to help mediate the resolution to this and will work with both of you to get it resolved and off of Marks forums. You can PM me here or on my site HeliHanger (same info), or email me.

Mike D

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01-17-2003 05:14 PM  15 years agoPost 43
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Extremely well said mike. Too many times it becomes a feeding frenzy on here before anyone takes the time to understand the situation.

I had an email from Keith this morning and I can tell he is frazzeled. And I do know that when people attack rather than approach someone in these type of situations, it tends to back people in the corner and this is how it ends.


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01-17-2003 05:24 PM  15 years agoPost 44
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Edited.. Thanks for clearing things up..

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01-17-2003 08:59 PM  15 years agoPost 45
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Frosty92

Thanks to everyone on this post for helping me out. He ended up refunding me after all this and a complaint to Paypal. I refrained from naming him and just wanted advice on what to do since he refused to refund me after he did not come up with proof of shipment. He refused to refund me, challenged me to see what I can do about it, and thought that "Runryder" would not care.

-------Does it fly?-------

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01-17-2003 09:34 PM  15 years agoPost 46
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Glad to here that--

Like I said all my deals with Frosty have been OK--no problems!!

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01-17-2003 11:03 PM  15 years agoPost 47
Tek

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Frosty92

The guy needs to learn some people skills. It should not have taken this much trouble and everyone involved. He could have taken care of me as a buyer instead of throwing me to the side after recieving the money. I gave him a weeks time to check on things for me. His problem is his lack of communication skills and manners.

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01-17-2003 11:59 PM  15 years agoPost 48
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Hi Maddog. frosty hasn;t contacted me yet and I have tried numerous amount of times to contact him. he won't contact me. Can you please contact him. I have had some advice from many people that I should take this to authorities. I have been in the hobby long enough to tell a good bearing with one otherwise. I can tell you that it would cost me less to get a new chopper than to repair it. COuld you please have him email me. Thanks
Sam

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01-18-2003 02:05 AM  15 years agoPost 49
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I will get hold of frosty--I understand that you have been in the hooby for awhile--frosty hasnt--I am not making excuses for him or saying he or you are ignorant, and I don't know the whole story of the Rap or the Quick as I have never seen either in person.

I will do what I can to get him to talk with you. I hate to see anyone with a bad taste about helis. You can email me with your phone number and I can give you a call.

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01-18-2003 04:29 AM  15 years agoPost 50
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He lives in Edgerton, KS

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01-23-2003 04:11 AM  15 years agoPost 51
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Hey

Just warning everybody not to sell anything to Audiopits@. Has led me on for 3 weeks. Was supposed to send me money for a Heli. Every day he says the money is on the way but never sends it. I wish people like him would stay off RunRyder and quit spoiling it for others. I think i will just get on Pay-Pal so i wont have to worry about this kind of thing again. Thanks, John

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04-08-2003 05:05 PM  14 years agoPost 52
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David Chmura

Responds to my add for Futaba 9CH, asks me to close the tread and says he will mail the check in 2 days. 3 weeks goes by and I never get the payment or even an e-mail from him. I hate when people do this.

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04-08-2003 05:39 PM  14 years agoPost 53
rockcrawler

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Mike Mcneall

Mike Mcneall riped me for 20$ on a feather rx.
I almost sent him 60 for 2 other servos he had.
Im glad I chose to wait untill the rx showed up. ( it never did.)
He also hasnt returnrned emails.
Jerk.

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04-09-2003 01:06 AM  14 years agoPost 54
Hotwings

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Lior Zahavi

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Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight. Got my RW Turbine Waiver, need lottery!

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04-10-2003 09:00 PM  14 years agoPost 55
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Century / Helicopter World

Here's what happen when I did a web order of a Ergo 60 Carbon Tail Boom from Century Helicopter / Helicopter World that was listed as " buy one, get two free", and to my suprise, what did I get, was just one. How nice is that to false advertise on there web site.......

http://www.centuryheli.com/products/carbon/index.html

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CN2126N 3-D Carbon Tail Boom

CN2126 Shuttle ZX, ZXX, RG, carbon T/boom $29.95
CN2126E3 Ergo 30/46 C/T/boom buy 1 get 2 free $29.95
CN2126E6 Ergo 60 C/T/boom buy1 get 2 free $39.95 <--------------
CN2126F Falcon 46 carbon tail boom $29.95
CN2126H Hawk, SE carbon fiber tail boom $29.95
CN2126N Nexus & Concept carbon T/boom 32/46 $29.95
CN2126R Raptor carbon fiber tail boom $39.95
CN2126V JR Vigor 820mm carbon tail boom $39.95
CN2126XL X-cell 60 carbon T/boom 31.5" $32.95


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I called them back later on the same day and they told me that had 2 in stock and 1 pending order, but they still wouldn't send me the last one they had. Richard said that they maybe going out the door today,.. Hummmmm kinda funny......
I just wonder why this has been like this for over a month and no one said anything about it when I ordered it

I really was thinking of get the new Century Predator Max 90, But I think I will change my mind after getting the bulls*hit running around by Richard and Nancy Chow.........

Jason

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04-13-2003 10:41 PM  14 years agoPost 56
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TERRIBLE GUY ROB MITCHUM !!

DONT ever do business with him at first he seems good then when something happened ? he turned on u !. i bought a webra 35 from him and it was in poor condition. the webra broke off in my hand !! a peice of the engine came off and i can see the inside !! and he said its not his fault ! may b not but he said the engine is in good condition! may b good compared to 12 years old engine. I even asked for HALF of what i paid back ! HE SAID NO! not even half ! u can bet that his name will be all over the internet ! his screen name is Mitchum3D , DONT EVER DO BUSINESS WITH HIM U GET BAD STUFF AND HE WONT REFUND U NOT EVEN HALF !!

Oh..shiiieeettt !!!

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04-28-2004 03:54 AM  13 years agoPost 57
yankee

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David Chmura aka 1rc heli does not pay! He says that the check is in the mail etc. and it never is. Beware.

Mark

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05-09-2004 03:20 AM  13 years agoPost 58
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Djlock

Hi guys i am not sure this goes here but here it is
i sold a rappy head button i got it from qww and open the bag but i was not going to use it so i sold it to djlock for 15.00 i told him that it was new never used now i send it to him and he said that it had a scratch and i told him that when i send it out it was in new condition now he said that it was used because it have some sticky stuf again i told him that it was not used and if he was not happy with it to send it back with a full refund now he did not awnser my pm untill today and i got upset here is what it says
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Sorry for the late response but I never tried installing this until just now... I thought it was going to be fine so I stripped the anodization nd polished it. Now I fine out that the bearings are the wrong ones.... if I was someone very stupid, I would have gone and flown it with a crash. I just want to let you know, what ever your trying to do with me by selling me this "crap" but damn, you cant be serious.... It has all signs of wear, bearings? You call these bearings for the raptor flybar? there like 4mm wide! I would be glad to send you the bearings for a check up if you woul like. Although its a 15 dollar item, I could have gotten it for 20 with having it with no problems at all.
now whe i got this head button i was told to use my own bearing that they will fit fine, i had many dealing with people here and on rcu and they know that how i discribe my items that how they are
now i told him to callme but he never does now i cant do nothing else he ruin the part i cant accept it back
and when it was shipped it was in a double bouble envelope so i know it was safe and i am dam sure it was in new condition, but i just wanted to let you guys know
thanks

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05-15-2004 04:13 AM  13 years agoPost 59
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