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01-14-2003 11:04 PM  15 years agoPost 1
choppersrock

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Ok guys

No doubt this may of been covered in the past but I would like some advice on the 3D NT

1) Does the Webra 91 now fit in this heli without any mods required to make to make it fit

2) Is it crucial to use things like the suggested nicad or can you use anything

3) What choice of servo's have you been using on the ccpm.

4) Anyone know if the GY401 will be ok with this heli - have got one on a millie 91 that seems to work fine.

5) Any items that are a must to help assist with an easy build up.

Thanks for the tips..


H

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01-20-2003 08:33 AM  15 years agoPost 2
Carps

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1) Webra is supposed to have addressed the issues now. Talk to Stephen at CyberHeli to confirm that the backwards running versions have been fixed

2) You can use any NiCad you like. You will just have to put it in a different place. However, with the recommended equipment balance will be perfect

3) 9206s, but did consider JR digitals - DS8425 Others are using digitals - check out the Henseleit Yahoo Group and go to 'database' to see what people are using -

4) There are people using the 401. See the database on Yahoo !

5) Nothing special required. Henseleit includes tools like feeler guages and a swash leveleing tool

Good luck

You won't regret it. The NT p1sses all over the Millie

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01-20-2003 04:10 PM  15 years agoPost 3
squirrel

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Carps>>

What parts do I need to upgrade to the latest version. I saw a new kit with a composite main gear. Please enlighten all of us in the states.


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01-20-2003 05:16 PM  15 years agoPost 4
Carps

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The latest version has
  • the tail upgrade which if I recall correctly was a redesign of the axle
  • the graphite belt rollers to 'charge' the belt as it rotates and remove static (replaces the spring loaded ball arrangement)
  • the little bearings that fit close to the tail belt pulleys and stop the belt from jumping
  • the carbon/aluminium main pulley
  • thicker carbon skid legs
  • fan shorud made of a different material

I think that is it. Anyone know of anything else ?

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01-20-2003 05:34 PM  15 years agoPost 5
Sam

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Carps,

Are there any of the upgrades that we absolutely must have to fly or can we wait a while? (I have an early 3DNT - Mod 1 about 1 year old.)

Thank you - Sam

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01-20-2003 05:41 PM  15 years agoPost 6
Carps

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From what I heard, the bearings on the belt and the carbon main pulley are only really required for the very *hardest* 3D pilots.
The graphite rollers on the belt are just an alternative to the springloaded ball. I guess they are better otherwise Henseleit wouldn;t have changed but if you are getting no RF interference you can probably live without them
The fan shroud was probably a manufacturing process change rather than any functional improvement
The thicker skid legs are worth it as the originals flex a lot. They are about £20

You can probably easily do without any of these things.

What you may be interested in are the carbon fibre skids and canopy !!!

Have you guys checked out this website ?

I like the canopies - gonna get me one of those babies...

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01-20-2003 05:55 PM  15 years agoPost 7
choppersrock

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changes to kit
Andy

Are these the changes that can be found in a Mark 3 kit.

Cyber seem a little slow replying about the engine question - emailed them last wednesday and still not heard anything yet.

Shame it takes sooo long to get an answer..

Cheers

H

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01-20-2003 05:58 PM  15 years agoPost 8
Carps

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Choppersrock...
Yeah. They are in the mark 3 kit

Are you 'Ned' ? - I fly with Ade...

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01-20-2003 06:14 PM  15 years agoPost 9
Sam

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Carps,

Thank you for the reply. I do appreciate it. Those of us over here in the US are kind of "on the outside looking in" when it comes to the Henseleit.

Can the CF canopy be bought directly from them? If so, how do I go about it? I can't read German at all so I'm really at a loss.

Thank you - Sam

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01-20-2003 06:21 PM  15 years agoPost 10
Carps

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Try chucking the site through WorldLingo
SImply put the URL in the indicated field and press trnaslate. When it next comes back all in German it will ask you the source language at the top of the page

I don;t know if this'll work, but here is the URL for the translation I did with it click here

Good luck !

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01-20-2003 07:53 PM  15 years agoPost 11
Sam

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Carps,

Thank you again. You are a great help.

Sam

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01-20-2003 09:34 PM  15 years agoPost 12
555 flyer

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Hi Sam,

For the Carbon Canopy you have to contact your NT source, as stated on the CR-site (in german). The Canopies are only deliverd directly from Jan Henseleit himself.

But since Jan has out-sourced the english and far-east to some other companies, I think you should contact them about the new Carbon canopy.

Greetings,

Rick

The Netherland's

P.S.: Flown my NT with Canopy for the first time this weekend, can you say FAST.

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01-25-2003 01:22 AM  15 years agoPost 13
Sam

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Thanks Rick. I some how missed your reply to me until just now. I got my Henseleit from Revolution. I'll check with them. We don't have any sources for the Henseleit helicopters here in the US.

Sam

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01-25-2003 11:47 AM  15 years agoPost 14
Carps

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Revolution Models should have some carbon canopies in the next week or so. I have just had a mail from Jan Henseleit to this effect.

I have my name on one already

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01-31-2003 07:44 PM  15 years agoPost 15
farmboy

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Engine?
Is it possible / or going to be possible to buy a 3D NT and fit an off the shelf 90 engine - in particulare the new OS 91 SHX 'C' Spec? I don't want to mess about with backward running engines etc.

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01-31-2003 08:04 PM  15 years agoPost 16
Carps

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If you don't mind left hand rotation, then you can fit a standard engine. The LHR kits have to be special ordered from Revolution, or you can get them direct from Jan Henseleit

Other than that there is no way to reverse the rotation as it uses a single stage reduction with pulleys

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01-31-2003 08:28 PM  15 years agoPost 17
farmboy

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Engine?
Thanks for info. Sureley LHR is fine and it must be advantagious to use standard enquines and carbs? Or am I missing something?

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01-31-2003 08:31 PM  15 years agoPost 18
555 flyer

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8mm shaft
You can use any engine with a 8mm grinded shaft. So the new 91 SHX 'C'spec does not fit. Axle is to short an to thick. You even have other reduction gears to fly the NT with a 60, that is if Jan is still producing them. I think nobody now a days flies the NT with a 60.

Lately someone on the german forum asked if it was possible to NOT use the auto-rotation driven tail-rotor. Jan had this option listed in the beginning, but after questioning had to answer, nobody had asked for it from the start, so the (few) part necessary weren't on stock.

Greetings,

Rick

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01-31-2003 08:33 PM  15 years agoPost 19
Carps

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Left hand rotation will make the heli lean the other way. You've probably noticed RHR lean to the right, and it's is something you get used to - subconciously. Switching to LHR may give you the heebie geebies for a little while as you re-adjust.
But saying that, a member of our club mixes the two with no problem...

With regard to advantages from the engine running the 'right' way - I really don't think it makes any difference.

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02-01-2003 08:02 AM  15 years agoPost 20
cmsgarb

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Hello,

the OS 91 "c" with 8mm crankshaft will be available from Graupner. It is shown in the new catalogue:

http://www.graupner.de/neuheiten_do...de/134N03WG.pdf


Regards


Christian

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