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01-28-2007 12:30 AM  10 years agoPost 1
Awol_46

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I recently got a CPP and have been hovering in my poker room,(10 deg outside) and today I flipped the Idle switch up and noticed it was easier for me to keep a stable hover. My question is, will it hurt anything to run w/ the Idle switch up all the time, TCM adjustment is all the way down. Thanks

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01-28-2007 12:46 AM  10 years agoPost 2
jmc67

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Nope, will not hurt anything as long as you don't crash with that switch in idle up. I hover/fly all the time in idle up mode.

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01-28-2007 12:47 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Gino CP

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Not really just don't go negative unintentionally or hit anything. Head speed will be constantly on max. And turn switch off when landing.

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01-28-2007 12:53 AM  10 years agoPost 4
Awol_46

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cool thanks guys. just didn't wanna burn something up.

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01-28-2007 12:59 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Micro-Maniac

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I actually recommend flying in stunt mode all the time - The higher head speed and more constant throttle helps keep the heli more stable so it's easier to control - You can switch to stunt before or after you take off or land it makes no difference and is personal preference - It's just more awkward to kill the motors quickly before impacts etc since you have to flip to normal mode and drop the throttle stick to kill the motors as the stock radio doesn't have a throttle hold feature - Simply dropping the throttle will just crash harder/faster.

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01-28-2007 01:58 AM  10 years agoPost 6
Gino CP

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I never really timed it but does flying in stunt mode consume more power?

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01-28-2007 02:10 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Splatcat

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Use more power.

I dunno. I fly 10 mininute flights and lately due to windy conditions always in idle up. I don't think it makes a diffierence because with the idle up switch off at mid collective and the idle up on at mid collective there is no noticable rpm change from flipping the switch to idle up it just sets the pitch to 0. It takes it from 0 to 10 weather in regular(full range of collective), or idle up from mid collective 0d to 10d at full. My guess is that it is very close. My power feels the same at 10 mins no matter what idle up position. Still good

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-28-2007 02:11 AM  10 years agoPost 8
Micro-Maniac

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I don't think it makes much difference just hovering and cruising around - To throw it around and really pull some juice you'd pretty much have to be in stunt mode anyways -

I think flying at lower throttle takes more pitch and higher throttle takes less pitch so the current draw kinda works out equal there -

But that's what makes it easier to control at higher head speeds as the motor stays in it's better power range and uses less pitch so the heli isn't fluctuating power and torque as much so it flies more stable.

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01-28-2007 03:24 AM  10 years agoPost 9
slider46

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I agree with the guy above get used to flying in idle up all the time, even if your just hovering it's going to have a higher headspeed and require less pitch to hover. It's just a good habbit to get into especially when you want to try a loop or flip. your already used to idle up......

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-28-2007 03:49 PM  10 years agoPost 10
fly2much

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A little off tipic I guess

I tried stunt mode (idle up) the other day. I am getting better at hovering and wanted to see how idle up improved my ability to hover due to the head speed being max and constant.

When I got to idle up my head speed is NOT constant it's much slower at full pitch (can't hover). On the ground if I go to negative pitch the head speed increases.

To restate when the stick is 0 the head speed is whatever it is. When I go positive pitch the head speed decreases and when I go negative pitch the head speed increases...it's far from constant.

It's a stock blade CP (not pro) and I don't have lipos...I do plan to get lipo's for increased flight time but I can't imagine not having lipos is the problem.

Any help is appreciated.

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01-28-2007 03:54 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Gino CP

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Have you guys left idle up on after a crash? Does your 4-in-1 survive? I've crashed in idle up and each time forget to switch off idle up. Each time the fuse I installed is popped. This is the only reason I have the fuse mod. Now I don't know if I can do without the fuse.

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01-28-2007 05:09 PM  10 years agoPost 12
Micro-Maniac

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fly2much -

The old CP radio runs a non-adjustable V curve in idle-up that is 50% throttle at mid stick and 100% throttle at both high and low stick which is the same mid to high stick range as normal mode (0-50-100) so you don't get the benefit of constant head speed with the CP radio like the Pro radio that has a knob to adjust the idle-up throttle curve between 100-50-100 and 100-100-100 - If you were in idle-up and increasing stick from low to mid position instead of mid to high position then that would explain the throttle decreasing instead of increasing like you were expecting -

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Gino CP -

I don't know - I use a computer radio with a throttle hold feature and usually have the throttle killed before impact and never let it run during/after crashes.

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01-28-2007 08:04 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Lowezz

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I'm a newbie and got my cp pro for Christmas. There is some stress put on the motor and drivetrain when you turn the idle switch on from a standstill motionless position in my opinion. I like to spool my blades up nice and easy. Get the momentum going then turn on the idle switch. Its kinda like dumping your clutch on your car all the time. Ya it will last for a while but will last longer if you are careful...

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01-28-2007 08:09 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Awol_46

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yeah I noticed that so I have been going to bout half stick before I flip the switch. you don't notice anything then

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01-28-2007 08:47 PM  10 years agoPost 15
fly2much

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Captain Chaos

Thanks for the information regarding the difference in the cp pro and cp radio. I didn't realize there was a difference.

My problem isn't worth discussing much more as I have decided to go separates today. However; my curve seems like it's 100 - 50 - 65 in idle up. Whatever..guess is I wanted idle up I should have bought a pro. But going separates I will be able to get around this anyway...although that's not my motivation for going separates. I just want to use my JR radio.

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