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11-29-2007 05:35 PM  9 years agoPost 61
Brett Horton

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eh!

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11-29-2007 06:06 PM  9 years agoPost 62
kookboy

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eh!
I think in my 32 years, I've never heard anyone in Canada say that not once.

... But honey it was only $$$

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11-29-2007 06:15 PM  9 years agoPost 63
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I say it some times Stop picking Copterviews

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11-29-2007 06:22 PM  9 years agoPost 64
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... But honey it was only $$$

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11-29-2007 11:48 PM  9 years agoPost 65
eyeinsky

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You all! cool

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-03-2007 05:28 AM  9 years agoPost 66
ericslife

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eyeinsky

True, if you are taking pix's for profit and or exchange of goods or the like,it falls under TC. If your in your friends back yard no problem. All though they did make mention of me doing test flights on the side of a mountain for winter shooting and even that was up for scrutiny, basically ,to some degree any AP-heli out side of the flying field could count. But then again I haven't spoken to the local rep for a while so things could have changed.
As it sit's im probably going to sell the Vario as it has been used once or twice in the last year just to keep the eng good.

Eric D

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12-03-2007 06:04 PM  9 years agoPost 67
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What costs may be involved in getting approved with TC, and is there any for each SOFC. I wish I had more time to devote to this, and help you guys out, but I don't, maybe I can join you soon in the future. At this point I do a little AP for fun.

Victoria BC, Canada, Century Swift,Trex SA 450, Hummingbird V3.

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12-03-2007 09:01 PM  9 years agoPost 68
eyeinsky

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It is still free far as I know, insurance is the big cost.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-03-2007 09:08 PM  9 years agoPost 69
eyeinsky

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True, if you are taking pix's for profit and or exchange of goods or the like,it falls under TC.

Far as I know you are legal to operate any were but are still liable for damages. Soon as you receive monetary value for your work you are commercial operator and fall under the scope of Transport Canada.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-04-2007 01:21 AM  9 years agoPost 70
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Yep.

Insurance is the biggest cost and applying for each SFOC when the skids leave the ground (paying jobs) is frustrating and a very slow moving process.

But once you get enough SFOC/flights logged with TC, you may apply for an annual FC.

The catch-22 is that to apply/receive an SFOC, you need to be insured.

One way to do this, and this is just a 'toss in the air' suggestion, is to go into a partnership/business together (the few in the lower mainland/island area) and maybe have an annual business permit/contract that dictates :

We operate under one company name which holds the insurance permit
We operate individually, however abide by the company guidelines/rules
Expenses/revenues of each operator fall under their finances

This way, as a company, we can apply for multiple SFOC's at the same time in different locations, be insured and operate individually.

This would be a good way for partimer's in the lower BC area to legitimately work as an AP operator in Canada collectively under one company name/one insurer.

Once the fiscal year is done, the contract can or cannot be renewed.

I'm not sure where to start or what type of legal undertaking this would be, but it's an idea.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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12-04-2007 01:39 AM  9 years agoPost 71
eyeinsky

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Or an association like MAAC but just for AP with insurance for all members meeting the guidelines required to operate safely under Transport Canada regulation.

Just putting that out there.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-04-2007 03:25 AM  9 years agoPost 72
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Yep.

We'll chat in the new year/Jan.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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01-21-2008 05:03 PM  9 years agoPost 73
kookboy

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I may have found an insurer for AP work in Canada that will be a lot less than the going rate of 5k+/year.

I won't post the details until I know 100% but the more businesses sign up, the less/better it will be.

Shoot me a PM if any of you canucks are interested.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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01-22-2008 02:58 PM  9 years agoPost 74
Sig Dawg

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PM sent

Jason

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01-22-2008 02:59 PM  9 years agoPost 75
kookboy

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It may take a week or two to get things ironed out.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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01-22-2008 11:03 PM  9 years agoPost 76
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Keep us posted. I'm about ready to sign up.

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01-23-2008 06:11 AM  9 years agoPost 77
ericslife

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Let me know as well , i might even take out the Vario again

Eric D

On the tour bus I say Eh! once a trip just to keep the tourists happy!!

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01-23-2008 07:49 PM  9 years agoPost 78
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It's a no-go.

Not as 'seamless' as I wanted. I had a biz lawyer look over the contract and the loopholes are too large for liability suits if you're in Canada.

I'm continuing the hunt.

Thanks for the PM's guys. There's a good group of people on here that want to get this off the ground so to speak.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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01-23-2008 10:14 PM  9 years agoPost 79
CKY

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It seems that insurance that satisfies Transport Canada may not be impossible, but it may not cover a claim?

May just be the old "cost of doing business" scam perpretrated by ???

If the fine (er..insurance) is below $1500, it may be within a small company/individual's budget?? Higher than that, charter a big boat, fill it with lawyers, insurance agents and politicians, add a car salesman or two and a slumlord and sink the sucker in the middle of the Atlantic.

Won't help AP, but will put a little smile on a lot of faces

Chris

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01-24-2008 04:53 AM  9 years agoPost 80
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I agree.

It's a tough call.

I don't think there's anyone here who is not serious about AP as a profession/business in Canada.

Because of that, getting an insurance carrier that may satisfy TC but may not honor the liability/or any claim issue is not an option for the majority of us.

So the hunt continues.

So far, the lowest I have with 1 & 2 mil liability coverage in Canada is 5,200 - 5,800 from two different insurer's who specialize in full size aircraft.

I'm sure there is another option somewhere. It would be nice to find out collectively, hence the 'start a canadian AP organization'.

Either that or perhaps see if RCAPA would like to extend into Canada.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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