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01-27-2007 04:39 PM  10 years agoPost 1
flyingscale

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Colorado

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Ok Guys
I have a son in the Army he is back from Iraq and is now in Germany
And wanting something to occupy his free time.
He wants to get a electric heli.
I fly only Schluters And know very little a bought the electrics.
He’s thinking a bought the Raptor g2 for his first one to learn on.
Would this be a good choice or is their something better to learn on
He does have access to a sim .
And says he can hover and fly quite well with the sim.
I told him the sim will give him the basics but the bird will not fly like the sim.
What do you guys recommend.
Thanks

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01-27-2007 05:34 PM  10 years agoPost 2
skeyecam

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Oklahoma City, OK

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Personally I love the Blade CX. It is great for learning the basics indoors and does not require you to know a lot about setup. I have used and abused mine to the point where I think I will retire it....but, at the same time I am planning on getting the CX2. It is my understanding that they have fixed a couple of gliches in the electronics and added a spektrum rx in the process. All of my spare parts from my CX will work on the CX2 as they are the same airframe.

Stay away frome the small CP style electrics until you have some air time.

Personally, the easiest bird I have flown so far is the Century Predator Gasser. Some might say this isn't a learner machine...but I argue that soley depends on your budget. The larger the machine the more stable it is. I can fly my little electrics much better after hovering a Predator through several tanks of gas.

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01-27-2007 06:27 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Ronald Thomas

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Personally. I am a Swift fan. Cheap parts, flies well on 4s and can be a monster on 6s. Great to learn on because it is a larger heli(.30 sized) and the wind does not affect it as badly as a smaller one. How much is he looking to spend? budget will determine what choices he will have....Ron

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-28-2007 09:16 AM  10 years agoPost 4
Pinecone

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Maryalnd

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As has been said, bigger is better as they fly smoother and more stable.

As for budget, a good real heli complete (with radio and evrything) is going to run $1000 - $1500 or more. Trex 450, Swift, etc. Size doesn't make that big a difference until you get even bigger.

The good news is, much of the stuff will be usable in many helis in the future if you buy right. Radio, servos, gyro, charger, maybe even battery packs.

The cheap ready to fly helis are serious compromises in every respect. They have marginal radio gear, margin motors, marginal battery packs, all to make a cheap price. Will they fly? Sure, but they are not easy to fly, and in some cases repair parts are more expensive than the larger helis. And depending on the heli, parts can be hard to get.

I have heard good things about the Falocn from Hobby-Lobby. The Efite Blades tend to be easy to get parts for, but are very twitchy little beasts. And I have one.

Terry
Blade CP Trex 450 SE
QJ EP8v2 EX Gaui Hurricane 550
Vibe 50 Bergen Intrepid Gasser

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01-28-2007 09:31 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Ronald Thomas

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I beg to differ on the size isseue. I own a Trex 450 and a Swift. The Swift is much easier to fly because it is not "twichy" at all. The Trex is harder to fly but it is still nice. The sound of the Swift in the air is AMAZING also. Those 550mm blades cutting the air is awesome!....Ron

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-28-2007 09:55 AM  10 years agoPost 6
VKGT

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Sanford, NC

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I'd say the T-Rex is the way to go.. Being a military person myself, I appreciate the fact that I can fit everything that I need in my Align case and take the heli and gear everywhere I go!

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01-28-2007 01:12 PM  10 years agoPost 7
MikeC

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Mosinee, WI

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I own a Trex 450 and a Swift. The Swift is much easier to fly because it is not "twichy" at all.
Thanks, I was about to say that. If someone were to say that the TREX was as stable as a Swift they've obviously never flown both of them. There's a huge difference between the two.

Mike

Century Swift, TREX 450, Blade MCX, Spektrum DX7

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01-28-2007 02:56 PM  10 years agoPost 8
flyingscale

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Colorado

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Thank you for your imput Guys
I have had a chance to do some research on the T-Rex
I realize it comes with a lot of upgrades and looks to be
a pretty good unit.
My only concern is The heli is quite spend’y.
Is this a bit much for a first heli . Or has this become the
Standard for getting into this hobby.
When I took up this hobby I went into it with the thought of
Ill start with one that’s’ cheep to get into
just to get the feel of it.
And if the bird turned out to be a squerly and hard to control
Well when I step into a bird that is more stable
then ill be just that much more of a better pilot
and know what to expect.
He’s going to crash that’s the learning process.
Are the small electrics like the
Raptor g2 and the Eagle 50 really that bad.
I have seen post’s on possible bad radios and plastic parts
But for a few hundred bucks he can get the feel for it to see if this is the hobby for him.
My son has registered on this site and is going to read these posts

Please keep your input coming.

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01-28-2007 03:15 PM  10 years agoPost 9
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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If he just want to get into the hobby as cheap as he can and see if he likes it I would look at the blade CP Pro. It comes with everything to get started with for 250. It's going to be squrrelly and a handful to hover but with the radd method to learn it will take alot of the crashing out of the equation.. http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
It is a good starter heli and cheap to repair, and it will make him a better pilot for learning on it....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-28-2007 05:56 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Viso

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Atlanta GA USA

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I bought the G2 sim before I bought a Raptor 50 nitro ,once I could hover nose in I fired up the Raptor with training gear , hovered a tank or so then took of the training gear and away i went. I found the Real Flight G2 sim physics with the heli very realistic ,not so good with the planes though, Raptor seemed easy to fly for my first heli. Although I am in the process of converting it to electric , hope this helps.

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01-28-2007 06:34 PM  10 years agoPost 11
MikeC

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Mosinee, WI

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My only concern is The heli is quite spend’y.
Is this a bit much for a first heli . Or has this become the
Standard for getting into this hobby.
Basically yes. You have the low end like the Blade CP which flies pretty well. I had a chance to help a guy out who showed up to the field with one and I was fairly impressed for the price. Then you have the TREX, 30 size or larger glow, 30 size or larger electric which all go from $800-900 and up by the time you get everything you need. So there's a big gap between the very low end and the next step up. Unfortunately it's just the nature of the beast.

Mike

Century Swift, TREX 450, Blade MCX, Spektrum DX7

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01-29-2007 10:58 AM  10 years agoPost 12
iceman9606

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middle of nowhere, iraq

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hey guys a really appreciate the input all of you have been giving meon this subject. and i think that i'm going to go with the T-REX 450 kit. Its unassembled so i can learn to setup it up and its a little bigger so as to be a bit more stable. once again thanks for all your help

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01-29-2007 11:09 AM  10 years agoPost 13
VKGT

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Sanford, NC

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Great choice Iceman

Also, for those looking for the CP Pro, the eSky Honeybee CP2 is the same thing and can be had for a lot less money.. 90% of the parts are interchangeable with the CP Pro, I know from experience. Only the mixing arm design in the head is different and minimal changes in the frame.

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01-31-2007 04:09 AM  10 years agoPost 14
bstock

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Easton, MD.

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If you think the Trex my be the heli you go with... you may also want to look at a Dragonus. Guys are saying they fly better and are better built (no upgrading needed) than a Trex.

There is an SA version for around $130... that seems to fly real nice (I have not flown it - but those that have... like it) ... especially for the money.

Look over rc-tek.com or flying-hobby.com

It's a new heli... so parts in Germany might be a problem!

Brent

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