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01-26-2007 07:07 PM  10 years agoPost 1
mrjayd

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OK, so I am about ready to take the plunge to start reckin' a heli.....:-)
I need some opinions on which one to get. I want either the Trex 450SE or the Swift Century. I think the Swift is a little larger and I heard the bigger/heavier they are, they are a little easier to manage?
I am getting a DX7 also by the way.

Anyway, I would like to hear some honest opinions on which one would be better for a noob who has about 40 hours on my SIM and still can't hover too good....:-) I am starting to wonder if this SIM is really working properly...:-)

So which one is going to be easier to fly? Honesty please, not just personal preference. I am ready to lay down the $.

Thanks..................JD

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01-26-2007 07:29 PM  10 years agoPost 2
mrjayd

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I should also say both heli's are about the same price.

Thanks..................JD

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01-26-2007 09:21 PM  10 years agoPost 3
MadCityMan

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The blade CX will be the easiest to hover...

If your only option is with those two, I'd stick to the sim until you can hover. Otherwise, invest in something like a blade CP that has inexpensive replacement parts at every hobby store. This will minimize cost/downtime. You also don't have to worry about building it right away. You can focus on the basics of flying instead of wondering if you assembled something wrong.

Dood, no way!

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01-26-2007 09:25 PM  10 years agoPost 4
frankg11

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don't put up a heli until you can hover the sim for a full tank consistenly. I know it's boring but in the end you will save many $$$ on your heli.

In real life the heli will be more unstable than the sim mostly.

also, bigger-heavier == stable

I have a 450xl and it is a bit of a handfull in light wind.

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01-26-2007 10:16 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Yug

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Depends which sim you're using. Some like XTR are more twitchy than the real thing.

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01-26-2007 10:18 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Don1127

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That's good advice for you Jay. The sim may seem boring and even expensive but it will really pay off. Both of the electrics you ref's are fine. Just get the sim in the process... Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Don

It's easy. Just pretend it's the simulator...

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01-26-2007 10:35 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Pyrock

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You also have to consider what areas are available for flying helis. If you have an AMA field or a large (football field sized) open area then I would suggest a larger heli like the Swift but if you only have a baseball sized field available and no access to an AMA field, then I would suggest a smaller heli as they are more versitile as far as places to fly...it's all about getting the most flight time! I basically started with a Trex 450SE and I dont regret it. It allowed me to fly in different fields and in turn, provided more flight time. The Swift will definitely be easier to fly but will require batteries that are a bit more expensive but well worth the $$. Go to the Trex section and browse around AND go to the Swift section. "LaughingStill" (and others) usually hangs out there and they have first hand experience on the swift.

As other have stated, a sim will REALLY help and get advice from others. Go to your local RC field and see what they are flying and get what is most popular because that will mean more people to ask advice from. Also, consider what parts are readily available in your local hobby shops. Trex and Swift parts are usually readily available.

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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01-26-2007 10:46 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Maxists The Baddist

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Go order one of those right now!

That's a good idea. Once you start flyin in the real world, you'll learn what to work on with the sim. And the sim will become interesting again.

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01-27-2007 02:32 AM  10 years agoPost 9
MikeC

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So which one is going to be easier to fly? Honesty please, not just personal preference. I am ready to lay down the $.
There's no question that the Swift will be easier to fly than the TREX. Not that the TREX is a bad heli but it's a matter of size. I have both and the Swift flies many times more stabe than the TREX, almost as solid as my Evo 50. It will cost quite a bit more though. I have around $700 in the TREX, about $1200 in the Swift, not counting TX and support equipment. I'm using V28 Emoli packs in my Swift which run under $100/pack. If you use LiPo batteries in the TREX they'll run $50-80, for the Swift will be triple that.

The Swift will require a larger area to fly than the TREX so this may be a deciding factor. As far as parts availability, they're pretty equal, many sources for parts for either.

Good choice on the DX7. I love mine. In fact I just sold my Futaba 9C and DX6 TX's. The DX7 is, in my opinion, the absolute best choice for an electric.

Mike

Century Swift, TREX 450, Blade MCX, Spektrum DX7

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01-27-2007 02:42 AM  10 years agoPost 10
VKGT

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I recently got my T-Rex 450SE after years of flying 30-60 size machines.. I love it! Great compliment to the fleet.

The T-Rex 450SE is an amazing heli once you get it set up properly and flies a lot like my old Raptor 50. I'd suggest that one if you have limited flying area or a lot of flying area! I fly mine in the back yard sometimes and that's something I can't do with my other helis.

Another vote for the T-Rex 450SE and get that carrying case so you can take it with you wherever you go..even to Afghanistan in my case

The swift will probably fly a little more stable due to it's size but every heli flies a little bit differently from one another. It doesn't really matter though, you can always increase the Expo settings on the radio and fly it the way you like it -- sometimes people forget to mention that.

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01-27-2007 02:59 AM  10 years agoPost 11
mrjayd

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I am finding the 2 very close in price.
Lets compare. I am looking at a Trex SE kit for $899 w/Futaba 401 gyro,
1 Futaba S9650 Servo, 3 Hitec HS-65HB Servos, and DX7 included.
Accessories include:
325 PRO Rotor BladeX1 set
315 Carbon Rotor BladeX1 set
Aluminum CaseX1
RCM-BL35G 35A Brushless ESC(Govener Mode)X1
New 430L Brushless motor(3550KV)X1

I guess I still need to buy a battery.

or

For $409 a Swift Century w/Century Brushless Outrunner 600 motor, Century Motor Gear 9T 5mm 1.0 Module, Century Brushless 80/100A ESC.
Along with that a DX7 for $349.
I will still need the gyro and battery. $300-$400

So their within a couple hundred of each other. Seems like the Trex is a lot better made though with all the aluminum parts. The Swift is mostly plastic parts.

So am I on the right track here? Is it personal preference at this point? Again, I am a noob and I am still going to use the SIM mostly. Just want to get something in my hands to start learning how everything is put together and works. The only thing I will probably do with it is start it up and maybe just lift off the ground a little to get the feel of it until I get better on the SIM.

Thoughts on the 2 kits?

Thanks..................JD

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01-27-2007 03:04 AM  10 years agoPost 12
VKGT

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The CNC aluminum parts on the Align stuff is top notch...

Once I saw pics like these, I decided that I had to have one because they had to fly great with machine work of this quality. I wasn't disappointed.

Where are you getting these prices from? I would point out that there are a lot of great USED deals here from the Great People of RR! Consider them an option for a great source to buy from!

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01-27-2007 03:20 AM  10 years agoPost 13
mrjayd

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I am just no into used gear. I like to but new and shiney....:-) Getting all my prices on ebay. Watching all the auctions now just waiting to hit that "Buy It Now" button....:-) Once I decide which route to take.

So for durability, would you go the Trex route then?

Thanks..................JD

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01-27-2007 04:13 AM  10 years agoPost 14
DarkSideSimba

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Alaska

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Nitro.. The addiction is not the heli. Its the smell.. But to you I would say Trex. Parts are everywhere. I am not a fan of lectric as of yet, but am looking. Though if I did get one it would be Trex for sure.

DSS

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01-27-2007 01:02 PM  10 years agoPost 15
MikeC

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So for durability, would you go the Trex route then?
For durability it would be the TREX, no question. But for stability it's the Swift hands down. The TREX can't even come close to the Swift. Don't get me wrong, the TREX is the best choice in a micro/mini e-heli IMO. I've owned many micros and minis before and the TREX was the only one I had that flew worth a damn. But like I said, it's a matter of size. The Swift is twice the size of the TREX. If you're talking about the TREX SE than maybe the costs are similar but the SE is twice the cost of the 450XL which I have or the 450SA. Heck, you can get a Logo10 3D for what the TREX SE costs. Batteries are still going to cost much more for the Swift though.

It all depends on what you want. Thw Swift does have inexpensive spares, not quite as low as the TREX but a lot better than the Logo10 which I was considering. The TREX will be able to be flown in smaller areas than the Swift. The Swift is more visible which is another why, as I get older, I like the Swift over the TREX!

They're both nice heli's so it's just a matter of choice,

Mike

Century Swift, TREX 450, Blade MCX, Spektrum DX7

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01-27-2007 01:41 PM  10 years agoPost 16
Ronald Thomas

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The 6s batteries for the Swift are about $189(Maxamps.com) And the parts are cheap. All of the CNC upgrades for the Swift are purely cosmetic, except the head block. I would recommend the Swift to learn on first. I logged a lot of hours in on a sim and when I switched to the real world, I found out that it is not the same. Yeah the movements are the same but if you crash I WILL cost you money. A typical crash for the Swift costs me about $37(crash kit). I own a Trex also and I think it is a little harder to fly but it is nice. I think it is all a matter of preference so but what you like and what your LHS supports. If you are in the same boat as me, and your LHS supports neither, you will be ok with either because parts are redily available for both helis. Good Luck.....Ron

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01-29-2007 03:43 PM  10 years agoPost 17
Pyrock

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SF Bay Area

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I just flew both of my birds over the weekend. Again, I have a Logo 10 3D and a Trex SE. I love both of my helis but I have to say that I really enjoy the Trex SE because the size really lets you go crazy...you can just let'er RIP in a much smaller area. Keep in mind that I was at a large park and not an official field. I suppose it also has to do with the fact that if I crash, I know that there are CHEAP parts sitting in my case or just down at the local hobby shop. Also, at a local park, you dont have to worry about anyone getting hurt by your heli as much if you are flying a Trex 450. Again, I love both the 325mm sized Trex and the 500mm sized Logo (Swift is 550mm) but this weekend, the TrexSE won out. If I go the the AMA field next weekend maybe the Logo will win!

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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