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01-26-2007 04:28 PM  10 years agoPost 1
grock

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Hello,
Someone is going to sell this to me in a very low price, its like new.

I wanted to know how is this helicopter(durability and engine)
the engine is os32. I have a 401 gyro and a hitec ecalipse 7.

Does it a good heli? I have background in helis(blade cp pro) so I know how to fly.

What is the difference between v2 and v1 ? does the v1 is a good heli for a begginer that knows how to fly.

It's urgent.
Thanks,
Gil.

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01-26-2007 05:25 PM  10 years agoPost 2
jschenck

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If you can fly the BCP the Raptor will be a real treat, it's SO much better to fly though I still like crashing my BCP. The Raptor is a good heli. It is a good step from the BCP IMO.

Here is a good parts list difference between the V1 and V2
http://www.micom.net/AirWolfRC/RaptorConv.jpg

the rest of his site has some interesting stuff also.
http://airwolfrc.com

I would recommend upgrading the tail to V2 with the SUS tail hub. You'll need about ~$30 worth of parts. The V1 tail is jut asking to crash it.

heliproz:
PV0200 or PV0526 - bearings - $16.99
Pv0148 - blade grips - $6.99
PV0499 - SUS tail hub $5.79

Most shops that carry Raptor stuff have these. you can find the bearings cheaper at avidrc.com or rc-bearings.com

Also, go check out raptortechnique.com - lots of good info there.

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01-26-2007 05:45 PM  10 years agoPost 3
grock

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Thanks,
I would like to check it with the v1 tail, to see if it's good enough. The tail is holding good?

How much weight the heli can lift with this engine?

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01-26-2007 07:17 PM  10 years agoPost 4
grock

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Hey, I'm getting the heli with all the servos and gyro, but I don't get any equipment.

What equipment do I need? starter? glow? pump? Please help me and write everything I need to take the raptor and just fly.

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01-26-2007 07:47 PM  10 years agoPost 5
jschenck

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The V1 tail does work and I have flown a few gallons with them. I also had them break and spit the tail blades at me even with a relatively low head/tail speed. It's a bad design as there is virtually no support for the grub screw holding the blade grips on. The V2 is a much improved but still flawed design IMO. The PV0499 takes care of the grub screw breaking issue with the V2 but does not address the lack of a thrust bearing. As long as you keep the stock tail blades on this should be plenty good. If you run longer stiffer tail blades and high head speeds I'd go with the QUK or some other tail design that incorporates thrust bearings.

Do you have any glow powered equipment from airplanes?
some of this equipment can be used. At a minimum you'll need:

- starter, almost any can be used for a 30 but if you need a new one I recommend the Sullivan Dynatron. Mine is 12 years old and going strong plus it'll start a 90 easy. You'll need to get a 6mm starter wand and the appropriate rubber insert for the starter. Get a big battery, minimum 7 amp.

- glow lighter. I like to have 2 in case one gives me fits.

- fuel pump. If you use an electric one, it's good to have a hand pump just in case. Get all the plumbing to hook up to a fuel bottle.

- Battery tester. Not absolutely needed, but so worth $20-$50. Get a battery tester that can put at least a 1 amp load on the battery to check RX pack health before flying. I use the duralite tester and have seen good results with the Futaba BR-2000. Hanger-9 and other make 'em also.

- Make sure you have spare glow plugs.

- My field tools include a set of 1.5mm to 3mm hex wrenches, ball link pliers, needle nose pliers, some basic screw drivers and a cheap set of jeweler screw drivers. I usually bring a pitch gauge though I rarely use it.

- a field charger is very handy for the RX and TX. I use the hobbico Elite and have been happy with it. the basic hobbico accu-charger is not bad but I like having a charger tell me how much it pushed into the pack.

This should get you started and flying.

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01-26-2007 08:06 PM  10 years agoPost 6
grock

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wow, thanks for the reply.
I've only flyed a Blade CP Pro, and it was tough, but I learned and now I can hover in all orientations..
My father want me to move to a bigger heli so we can fly in a wind.

Does this heli can fly in a 10-20 mph wind ?

I have no gas equipment so..
I would like to know a few things about the equipment if you can help me:
1. What is glow lighter? and why do I use it?
2. Why and how do I use the starter?
3. I can get a hand fuel pump, does it ok? which fuel should I use ?

Thanks,
Gil.

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01-26-2007 08:23 PM  10 years agoPost 7
jschenck

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The Raptor flies just fine in a 10-20mph wind.

- glow lighter is a battery source to get the glow plug glowing. This is required to start the engine.

- an electric starter is the only practical way to turn over the engine to start it.

- a hand operated fuel pump is fine. You just need some reliable way to get fuel into the tanks.

Above all other advice, I would suggest finding someone in your area who has some RC heli experience and get some help. Find a club, even if you have to drive 50 miles - for the first few flights. Having and experienced RC pilot look over your machine will save you a lot of money, time and frustration.

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01-26-2007 10:31 PM  10 years agoPost 8
grock

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Hey, I didn't see in my life a nitro helicopter, and tomorrow I'm going to see and but for the first time.
I wanted to know something, how do I connect the receiver to the engine? a servo or something? can someone explain me how does the raptor 30 works(receiver - engine,tail,servos)

Thanks,
Gil.

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01-26-2007 10:35 PM  10 years agoPost 9
Kramer

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Here is a link to the V1 manual,Download it and it will give you a good idea on how it all goes together
http://www.acehobby.com/ace/PDF/HELI/rap30v1.pdf

http://www.facebook.com/groups/1029857 http://northern-indiana-modelers-association.synthasite.com/

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01-27-2007 09:15 AM  10 years agoPost 10
grock

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Thanks. Finally, I know how it works.
The deal that someone offered me is 350$ for a unused raptor 30 v1, os32 engine - only 1 galoon on it. Futaba GY401 with the servo, 4 other servo from hitec and futaba. some spare parts and 2 galoon and blades. The radio system that he's selling to me in that deal is the Hitec Eclipse 7 with spectra or something.

Is it a good deal? I saw the heli and it looks in great condition. as new.

Also, He have the v2 canopy on it.

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01-27-2007 09:56 AM  10 years agoPost 11
VKGT

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It's okay but a R30V1 is still an R30V1.. Upgrade to a V2 as you break things or just start out with a V2.

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