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01-26-2007 05:59 PM  10 years agoPost 21
BrainDrain_dx

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Wichita KS

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normal pitch = 0/0/0 (-4/0/+4 is fine the key is to notice "hey im not in the right mode" when you start flying) normal throttle 0-80-80
bring it up to half stick and switch to idle 1 (-10/0/+10)
I land in throttle hold always, switch to normal and then turn off t-hold with all my helis.

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01-26-2007 06:06 PM  10 years agoPost 22
caseyjholmes

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First reflex you should learn to build in is to hit the idle up switch if you go inverted in normal mode.

Only sure fire way to save it if you aren't high enough.
Practice that a few times in the sim, and it will become a reflex.

And to top it off, cyclic rate goes down with headspeed. Isn't that a b\tch? Once you notice the headspeed going, it's usually too late to roll or flip out of it if you fly somewhat low (Specially on a headspeed sapping Trex 450!). Flick idle 1 and punch the negative!

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01-26-2007 09:17 PM  10 years agoPost 23
rky5

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Ill tell you its a pisser!
I just get to excited to get in the air, and forget all else!
I think I might do as one fellow said, lower the mid point throttle on normal mode so there is a big differents on the sound when you are in throttle up.
Or have My wife stand next to me with the check book to remind me when ever I fly!!

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01-27-2007 02:19 AM  10 years agoPost 24
jhamlinjr

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Milledgeville, GA, United States

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Is it ok to have throttle hold on, put stick at mid point, flip idle up on, then flip throttle hold off to start up? I have soft start.

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01-27-2007 02:25 AM  10 years agoPost 25
slider46

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I think doing That will strip a gear really fast..... You should spool up slowly to mid stick, flip to idleup, and go fly........

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-27-2007 02:36 AM  10 years agoPost 26
jhamlinjr

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Cool! Thanks Slider!

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01-27-2007 11:55 AM  10 years agoPost 27
Edge

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Is it ok to have throttle hold on, put stick at mid point, flip idle up on, then flip throttle hold off to start up? I have soft start.
If you are running with a good governor like a Jazz, IMO best procedure is to flip out of TH into normal with throttle stick at bottom. Move to mid stick (zero pitch) and as heli spools up flip into idle1. When max RPM reached, go fly. Flip into TH at landing or just before. Procedure gives smooth operation, no stress on gears, and allows focus to be on flying, no switch flipping to jack with while in the air. Bird performance and responses consistent throughout flight, regardless what you throw at it!

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01-27-2007 03:04 PM  10 years agoPost 28
jhamlinjr

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Thanks to you too Edge! You guys are great! I only wish we lived closer so I could do some flying with you guys. I have never flown with anyone but still advancing cause yall have shared your knowledge with me. Invaluable I must say!

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01-27-2007 03:39 PM  10 years agoPost 29
docjoe

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What I do is give my normal throttle curve just enough to get the heli to hover, something very low. THen Idle 1 and 2 are much higher headspeed. I don't have much power to do anything except hover in normal mode. Because there's such a difference in headspeed from normal and idle, it's hard to make a mistake.

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01-28-2007 05:54 AM  10 years agoPost 30
Jason Gary

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Sacramento, California, USA

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If you are running with a good governor like a Jazz, IMO best procedure is to flip out of TH into normal with throttle stick at bottom. Move to mid stick (zero pitch) and as heli spools up flip into idle1. When max RPM reached, go fly. Flip into TH at landing or just before.
Is there any advantage in landing in TH mode, or switching to TH mode after landing, compared to landing in idle 1 mode, switching to normal and then shutting the engine off?

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01-29-2007 12:16 AM  10 years agoPost 31
BrainDrain_dx

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When I go over and pick up my heli and carry it back somewhere sometimes I bump the throttle stick. I have to bump the throttle hold switch enough to completely change its position. The correct thing to do is unplug the battery but I'm lazy sometimes and using T-Hold prevents unwanted starts.

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01-29-2007 12:19 AM  10 years agoPost 32
caseyjholmes

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I think doing That will strip a gear really fast.
I'd rather chance striping a gear than landing inverted

when it happens, it's too late. When you are too low, only thing to try is to hit idle or run over and catch it

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01-29-2007 01:07 AM  10 years agoPost 33
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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Casey read the post above, he want to start in idle up mid stick by flipping off throttle hold and going for it. I think that is going to strip a gear...

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-29-2007 02:29 AM  10 years agoPost 34
caseyjholmes

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oh yeah

I've seen that done with castle creations and jazz controllers. Align soft start seems maybe too fast. Might work on the 600 and 450, but it would rip the fine teeth right off my logo if I tried that with it's align esc. I'm not positive, but I do remember this is the way my friend flew his hornets.

He would flick straight into stunt mode. Not sure how cause he was using JR. the heli would spool right into idle and stay there till he hit hold. this was using a castle creations esc.

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01-29-2007 03:22 AM  10 years agoPost 35
OUCaptain

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I do it with my Align ESC all the time. It's got a very slow spool up. Slower than I can usually do it myself with soft start off. I usually flip into idle up, go midstick, the hit the hold. But only When I'm positive there has been no throttle imput for at least 30 seconds. The softstart takes about that long to re-enable itsel after spinning down.

Generally, I only do during the first spool up after plugging in the batt. Otherwise if I've landed to check or adjust something I click back to normal, then click back to idle up once in the air.

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