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01-24-2007 09:07 PM  10 years agoPost 1
ssrobzoom

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The SE or the HDE and why?

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01-24-2007 09:10 PM  10 years agoPost 2
helder22

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SE I guess. Less slop? Assuming theyre set up the same.

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01-24-2007 09:11 PM  10 years agoPost 3
colsy

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Both hover the same, given identical setup.

colin.

Only Quote From Experience.

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01-24-2007 09:14 PM  10 years agoPost 4
slider46

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They will be the same in a hover, you won't notice a difference until you get into flying around Then the cppm heli SA/SE will be the better flying. IF your looking for 3D the SE is the one you want...

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-25-2007 01:32 AM  10 years agoPost 5
ShellDude

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The Dragonus

/me ducks for cover.

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01-25-2007 01:41 AM  10 years agoPost 6
slider46

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HEHEHEHEH what is a drag anous is that a support group for heli addicts like us.. I mean you....LOL

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-25-2007 01:43 AM  10 years agoPost 7
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01-25-2007 01:56 AM  10 years agoPost 8
rky5

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SE

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01-25-2007 01:58 AM  10 years agoPost 9
rky5

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SE in my opinion because the aluminum parts are a little more precise and the direct servo to swash seems to make for less slop.

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01-25-2007 02:00 AM  10 years agoPost 10
slider46

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Dude, you need a support group.. What is wrong with the skids

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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01-25-2007 02:13 AM  10 years agoPost 11
ShellDude

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they're unbreakable... I have been thinking about dying them silver or black fwiw

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01-25-2007 06:50 PM  10 years agoPost 12
ssrobzoom

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Which version flys better?

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01-25-2007 06:54 PM  10 years agoPost 13
ckoelliker

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Both hover the same, given identical setup.

colin.

I will go with Colin. If the same person set these up I do not think you would see any difference. Especially if you were not doing serious 3D.

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01-25-2007 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 14
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SE, ask the FAI guys. Less slop = more precise hovering.

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01-25-2007 08:25 PM  10 years agoPost 15
JR-Align

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shell: love the dragonus

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01-25-2007 11:08 PM  10 years agoPost 16
EddieNewYork

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I had an HDE and now own 2 SEs (one was an orignal SE and one HDE converted to an SE). The main reason I didn't like the HDE is because there was too much slop in the collective mechanism. And, I'm pretty sure this what caused the heli to drop altitude so easily.

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01-26-2007 03:44 AM  10 years agoPost 17
MikeInMobile

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The HDE CAN be made to be ultra-precise, but it DOES require a lot of effort. I currently have two HDEs, re-engineered to remove all of the slop. Part of the conversion requires the use of GOOD carbon fiber frames (NOT the Align ones as the carbon fiber that Align uses for their frames is not rigid enough for the job). Another critical part is to replace all of the pushrods to a thicker variety. I usually use 2.3mm pushrods on all of my machines, including the two HDEs. This requires that you also replace ALL of the ball links to statdard ones (Again, not a bad thing). Also, ALL of the plastic arms in the heli MUST go. These attribute to most of the slop in the machine. There are a lot of sources for aftermarket machined arms for the HDE. The servo arms CAN remain plastic .... this will not cause a problem, but cheap servos CANNOT be used since most of them have excessive dead-band and develop slop very quickly (a very bad thing for precision).

I undertook this conversion about 2 1/2 years ago, and both of the resultant machines are STILL as tight as the day they were put together. These machines are tight enough to PROPERLY perform FAI maneuvers with the required precision!

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01-26-2007 04:16 AM  10 years agoPost 18
Raptorz499

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Another vote for the SE here. The direct link CCPM setup is the way to go because there is no slop with extra linkage as that on an HDE.

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