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Century Radikal E640 - Swift 16 NX
› Swift shake and vibe at spoolup and down
01-24-2007 06:24 PM  10 years agoPost 1
hedgebird

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Gentlemen,

I have the following issues:

1) at spoolup and down i get funky chicken seriously!
2) I have the cc85hv and after spoolup if I hit zero stick on the tx it goes to zero trottle and seems to be a looong time in re-spooling up.

Any, and I mean any help is appreciated with thanks of the finest kind

Cheeers,
Christian

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01-24-2007 06:41 PM  10 years agoPost 2
SRH990

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If you do a search there are loads of posts on this subject, quite a few of them mine shortly after I built the Swift in December 2005. These should have been sorted now, have you got the V3 undercarriage, there are spacers under the back legs giving a forward tilt to the heli, the original & V2 skids were too thin and spindly making the shakes much worse. The other problem was that the feathering shaft was too tight in the head, the original shafts were aluminium with a ball formed in the middle, this should slide easily through the head, the early batches had problems with the head block shrinking more than was allowed and the hole was too small. The fgix for this is either to ream out the headblock or buy the new steel feathering spindle, some of which have a plastic ball, some don't, if you fit the alloy head the plastic ball has to be removed anyway so you can do without it. Check how tight your blades are fitted, if you hold the heli sideways they should only move downwards if you shake the heli.

If you do a search on the CC speed controllers you should find details on setup to alter the spoolup time, mine is also very slow on my CC60 but I'm happy with it like this.

Steve -Trex 700N, Trex 600N, Raptor 550E, 450SE, Mini Titan, Logo 5003D, Beam E4

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01-24-2007 06:48 PM  10 years agoPost 3
hedgebird

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Thanks for this great post

I do have the v2 landing gear. I have not checked the feathering shaft yet - will do that later today.

So it seams that I will be buying new gear and feathering shaft as a first step.

Kind regards,
Christian

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01-24-2007 08:46 PM  10 years agoPost 4
Greybird

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I finally got mine going yesterday. What a nice heli. I had the chicken dance also. I tightened the blades anf in Normal mode throttle curve, I changed to 0-35-75-80-85. The 35% got rid of it.

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01-24-2007 10:27 PM  10 years agoPost 5
hedgebird

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Greybird, thanks too

I went shaking today, I thought that I could at least attempt to break my landing struts, and I managed to do this

I will have to change my curve too.

Once again thanks guys

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01-24-2007 10:40 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Greybird

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Also, Check your endpoints. Mine ended up being 140 and 85 to get full throttle control.

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01-25-2007 12:57 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Ronald Thomas

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Don't ream out the head block, just sand the feathering spindle ball with light grade sand paper until it fall through the head with no effort. After you sand it take on of those green dish cleaning pads and smooth out the sanded area to remone any metal flakes and give it a smooth finish. Your main blades should be just tight enough to hold on thier own weight when you turn the heli on on side while in the air. Are you using the Castle link controller? It will make setup much easier and faster. It will also give you the option to upload the newest firmware from Castle Creations. I hope this helps. You can also find a great thread on this at Swift-tuning.com......Ron

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01-25-2007 01:27 AM  10 years agoPost 8
hedgebird

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laughingstill, thanks, yep CC85HV - downloaded 2.22 and newest firmware 0% brake, but still think that the spinup time is slow once I have hit zero on the stick.

Thanks for the tips :-)

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01-25-2007 01:29 AM  10 years agoPost 9
Ronald Thomas

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Im pretty sure there is an option that will allow you to increase the spool up speed. When you are on Castle Link, drag your mouse over the question marks and they will give you an explanation of each option.....Ron

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01-25-2007 01:35 AM  10 years agoPost 10
Syclic

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And please all remember, ALL R/C helicopters (electric, nitro & gas)shake a bit whenever they spool up. This is because, until the rotor blades find their natural "lead-lag" position, the rotor disc will be out of balance. But as soon as your rotor gets enough rotor speed to allow the centrifugal force to pull the blades out into their flight positions, you will find it all smooths out.

Also, be sure to have the blade bolts adequately tight to keep them in that position during spool down. The rule of thumb is to tighten them just enough so they will hold the blades in an outstretched position while the heli is held on its side, yet loose enough, that when held on its' side, a vertical jerk will cause them to fall.

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01-25-2007 08:07 AM  10 years agoPost 11
willie evans

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over one year old.

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01-25-2007 11:51 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Ronald Thomas

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Was that help or an insult? My Swift shakes on neither spool up or down. I did the triple bearing upgrade, solid main shaft, upgraded and the feathering spindle. No shakes and the cost of those upgrades still put me under the price of a LOGO, TREX 600, and E-RAPTOR! Bottom line, The Swift is the best bang for the buck heli out there......Ron
P.S. I bet $50 Willie is a LOGO owner!

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01-25-2007 02:35 PM  10 years agoPost 13
MikeC

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Was that help or an insult?
Sure sounded like an insult to me.
Bottom line, The Swift is the best bang for the buck heli out there..
I agree 100%.

Mike

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01-25-2007 04:13 PM  10 years agoPost 14
SRH990

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Don't ream out the head block, just sand the feathering spindle ball with light grade sand paper until it fall through the head with no effort.
This is what the UK importer was doing with stock headblocks to solve the problem. If you fit the alloy headblock you have to use the steel reinforced feathering shaft, if it has a plastic ball in the middle (some do) then you have to remove it completely otherwise it won't fit in the head, the inference being it aint needed anyway!

I did notice the overall improvement when I fitted the triple bearing block upgrade and I replaced the main shaft very early on, the original hollow shafts were very soft at best, the solid mainshafts weigh a good but more but are well worthwhile.

I do have a Trex 600 and took delivery of a Raptor E550 earlier this week but I couldn't imagine not flying the Swift as its such fun to fly. In truth I've bought the E550 because I want to build a scale heli again and I don't want to waste the Swift or 600 by sticking them inside a fuselage

Steve -Trex 700N, Trex 600N, Raptor 550E, 450SE, Mini Titan, Logo 5003D, Beam E4

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01-25-2007 05:49 PM  10 years agoPost 15
willie evans

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over one year old.

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01-25-2007 05:59 PM  10 years agoPost 16
Ronald Thomas

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I guess I am not a good enough pilot to be able to tell I have a "subpar" heli. I DO know this, My heli is as smooth as silk, does not vibrate, and does everything I want it to do when i give it stick input. If that is not a great heli, then I don't know what is. I flew a Logo 10 once, crashed it, and had to repair it so it turned me off to them but it was a very nice heli while it was in one piece. I do not know how long ago you had your Swift but the problems you described have been addressed with upgrades or slight modifications that cost nothing. Take a stock Swift, add all of the upgrades (triple bearing, stiffened side frames, solid main shaft, and upgraded feathering spindle) and the net result is a great heli that will do anything you ask. BTW it will still be at least $200 less than a Logo 10 3D, will perform just as well, and will MUCH less expensive to fix!.....Ron

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01-25-2007 07:52 PM  10 years agoPost 17
trevorz

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Well I agree, mine is a great machine too, with zero issues. Mine is also a gen 1 product, and there have been changes made to the design, including frame changes to stiffen/improve it along the way.

But we know Willie has it bad for this heli no matter what is done, or how many people have had success with it. To each their own I suppose.

BTW, my swift is stock, no bearing upgrade, no frame stiffeners, and I am running heavy 7S emoli with no problems. I did put the latest landing gear on though ( more because the evil ground made me :-) )

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01-25-2007 07:56 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Ronald Thomas

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I am relatively new here so I did not know Willie was out for the Swift. He must have been beaten up by one in his past

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01-25-2007 08:03 PM  10 years agoPost 19
willie evans

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over one year old.

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01-25-2007 08:46 PM  10 years agoPost 20
Ronald Thomas

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Do you design R/C helis for a living? What makes you an expert? I was just stating my opinion which was contradictory of your blanket statements. I don't suppose you could tell me what was the first E-heli to win a 3D title could you??????? The Swift!!!!!! All i am saying is that it can't be as bad as you say, or it would not be doing so well!........Ron

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