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01-24-2007 03:27 AM  10 years agoPost 1
Gorlax

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Hi, im new to RC helicopters and have been looking at some on the internet. I want to get a Helicopter that is cheap but reliable. I have been looking at Walkera Dragongfly 6CH #36. I wanted to get a camera installed on it and also would like to know if their is any way to increase the range it can fly. Or any other helis with a very far range capacity..

thank u

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01-24-2007 03:32 AM  10 years agoPost 2
UCGC

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"Very far range capacity" is a relative term...you got to be able to see it. Everyone is going to tell you get a sim, and they're right. Helis are not easy. There is a big learning curve to tackle.

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01-24-2007 03:40 AM  10 years agoPost 3
smokenjoe50

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start with a blade cx2 in the house

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01-24-2007 03:51 AM  10 years agoPost 4
Gorlax

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How come I would have to see it. Would if I had a Camera mounted to it Would it be possible to fly like that.

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01-24-2007 04:10 AM  10 years agoPost 5
UCGC

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I think you're kind of getting into UAV's now.

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01-24-2007 04:17 AM  10 years agoPost 6
marc8090

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You better watch out before you send up red flags with the TSA asking about flying beyond sight. On a side note the recommendation to start with a Blade CX2 is dead on, and I would stay away from the Walkera.

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01-25-2007 12:28 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Pyrock

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How come I would have to see it. Would if I had a Camera mounted to it Would it be possible to fly like that.
I think that is a bit of wishfull thinking! For a newbie, that's a bad idea. UAV's are serious machines. Who knows where it can end up if (when) you crash. Walkera? Nuff said!

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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01-25-2007 01:39 AM  10 years agoPost 8
Ronald Thomas

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DON'T BUY THE WALKERA. I bought one, crashed it, and got into the parts finding game. Most part suppliers have little or no stock and the source directly from China. Sometimes it took me 4 weeks to get parts. The electronics leave a LOT to be desired also. They don't work well and they fail a lot. MY brand new Walkera Tx had a faulty solder joint which caused the crash. I opened it and found that almost ALL of the solder joints were barely holding together! I fixed them all, promply bought a Swift, and never looked back. Good luck....Ron

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01-25-2007 04:34 AM  10 years agoPost 9
viper_strike

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Don't buy a walkera 36. I bought two when I started and am replacing the electronics and the motors. The two guys that help me both have Trex 450 and they are both happy with them.

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01-25-2007 04:40 AM  10 years agoPost 10
legoman67

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ok first thing is first try to fly it when u can acculy see it! lol... once you master that then talk about camera, a camera needs a big heli and even still its extremely hard to fly strictly with the camera. Most helis with cameras are for picture taking... not for distance flying... and the more money that you spend on upgrades on your first heli the more money your wasting in your first crash..(yes you are going to crash)

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01-25-2007 04:24 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Pyrock

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What Lego said!!

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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01-27-2007 09:00 PM  10 years agoPost 12
ewok_poacher

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Walkera is a good product, parts are readily available (check ebay 1-2 day delivery). As for the comparison between walkera and t-rex, the t-rex costs 5 times more than the walkera. That would be like saying a Honda s2000 is junk because a Lamborghini is better.
If your looking for an inexpensive rc heli Walkera makes a great product. My advice is to get a helicopter made for a beginner and buy some spare parts upfront. YOU WILL CRASH and when you do things will break. Walkera helis come with a cable to connect your receiver to your pc and there are a host of free sims you can use for practice (FMS).
Also before you try to fly your new heli remember that the term ready to fly means that everything needed is there it still needs to be setup.

http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/wa...copter.html#box

here is a good tutorial on setting up your heli.

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01-27-2007 09:17 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Ronald Thomas

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With all of the people that have had problems with alkera, how can you say its good? the frame without electronics may be ok, but when you buy the RTF heli, it is a crapshoot whether or not the electronics will work. You can buy the servos on E-bay in a lot of 10! Why is that? The Walkera heli only needs 4. I think its because you will have to have that many to get 4 that will work! You are a Walkera DEALER so it would not be in your best interest to say Walkera leaves a lot to be desired. I do have a suggestion, tell Walkera to charge an extra $75 for a heli and get better electronics and maybe they can be called a good value. As it is now, the kit as a whole is almost dangerous to fly with the current electronics. My two.....Ron

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01-27-2007 09:35 PM  10 years agoPost 14
ewok_poacher

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Have you personally had a bad experieance with a walkera product laughingstill??

I think that you are probably looking at the walkera kits made for beginning hobbyist. You would probably get a little more satisfaction from one of the other products such as
http://www.walkera.com/en/pro_parti...er=Z306%2320104
MODEL 6#2
Wich i can sell to you for $1000.00

As far as electronics not working- I have never had that problem nor has anyone ever shown me this in a walkera product. I have only seen it written on the internet.
Here is the bottom line -
Do not purchase a $150.00 model and expect a $1000.00 model
You will get dissapointed everytime. If you want a top of line heli than buy one dont buy a starter model and bitch about the brand because its not top of the line. Walkera makes a good product in all aspects of the hobby. From beginner to expert Walkera has a good heli but if your an expert buy the expert model. IF YOU WANT A $1000.00 MODEL BUY ONE DO NOT BUY A $150.00 MODEL AND EXPECT IT TO PERFORM TO YOUR $1000.00 EXPECTATIONS!!

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01-27-2007 09:57 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Ronald Thomas

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Yes I had a Walkera 36 PRO and was completely dissatisfied with it. Two of the three cyclic servos did not work, the gyro was the worst HH gyro ever(never held anything especially a heading) and the Tx from the factory had multiple solder joints that were bad(the one to the battery failed on my second flight and caused my first crash!) I agree that you should not expect $1000 performance from a $250 heli but I DO expect everything to work for $250. I had to buy the lot of 10 servos to replace the two that did not work before I could even get it offf of the ground! I know of a few helis(Blade CX, CP, CP Pro) that cost less and have less problems. If I had it to do all over again, I would not but anything Walkera. Hindsight is always 20/20 though......Ron

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01-27-2007 10:10 PM  10 years agoPost 16
ewok_poacher

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With that many problems in one product I would consider it to be a defect and return it to the dealer for replacement. Why didn't you do that? If you do not make any modifications to your model and it does not work I would be more than happy to help you get a replacement. This is definatley the exception and in no way the norm.
I am sorry that you experience has not been a good one. I will do anything I can to help.

I have already sent a message to my rep at walkera telling her of your situation. I will let you know what I can do for you as soon as I recieve her reply.

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01-27-2007 11:08 PM  10 years agoPost 17
Ronald Thomas

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It took me approximately 3weeks for me to get it when I ordered it the first time so I just decided to pay the $15 and get new servos, solder the bad connections, and try and deal with the gyro issue. I got frustrated, saved my money, and bought a Swift. I chalk it all up to experience, I should have done my research....Ron

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01-27-2007 11:16 PM  10 years agoPost 18
ewok_poacher

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atlanta,ga

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Well if you would like to give walkera another try I will stand behind there product. I do not know who you were dealing with when you bought it but they must not have went through walkera.
The factory ships orders in 1-7 days through dhl who gets it to me in 3 days, so worse case scenario it would take 10days and best case 4 days.

Once again I am sorry for your bad experience. If you want to give Walkera another chance and go through me I will make sure you have a pleasant experience.

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01-27-2007 11:23 PM  10 years agoPost 19
Ronald Thomas

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Thanks a lot but I am in love with my Swift. Maybe somewhere down the line when I start to hear more good than bad about Walkera....Ron

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-28-2007 12:48 AM  10 years agoPost 20
Don1127

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Gorlax,

Sounds like you have a genuine interest. It might be worth your time to find a local flying field and watch what they are doing for an afternoon. Flying beyond visual range is not your basic heli hobby stuff. Ask questions of the guys at the field and look at their equipment and you'll get a better idea of where you want to start in this hobby. (Electric, indoor, 30's, 50's, 90's)

Best of luck. You can see from this post that most of us have strong oppinions about the gear that we like. It's best to see it first hand and watch some pilots use the equipment. let us know how it goes.

Don

It's easy. Just pretend it's the simulator...

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