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01-24-2007 03:57 AM  10 years agoPost 41
Inspector Fuzz

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No binding here...

My stuff is always gets anal attention to detail. All control links are always sized to the balls they ride on so that they are very free. No binding anywhere.
All the times it stalled out always occured during fast backwards flight. Whenever I started working the tail hard, the current draw from the tail servo was too much. Flying fast, tight, backwards figure eights I could make the thing cut EVERY time. Upright or inverted, if you pushed the tail the EXC would cut out for about 1-2 seconds.
It works fine in a plane, with 4 servos.
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01-24-2007 04:12 AM  10 years agoPost 42
dkshema

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Did you ever disable the current limit feature on your CC ESC. It's a must with helicopter operation. Otherwise you'll see random, momentary motor cutouts.

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01-24-2007 04:30 AM  10 years agoPost 43
Inspector Fuzz

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Current limiter disabled..

Yep.
I saw a guy with one at the flying field this weekend and it seemed to be working great. He did confide that he had spent a good deal of time "fidling" with it. To each their own.
I guess my point really is that the few extra bucks you pay for the Jazz vs the CC and its computer link is really worth it.
If someone is looking for their first ESC the Jazz ought to be it. The switching regulator, not the governer, was the original reason I bought mine.
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01-24-2007 04:44 AM  10 years agoPost 44
dkshema

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Just checking...

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01-24-2007 05:31 AM  10 years agoPost 45
KamikaziRcPilot

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I'm not going to be able to post my setup instructions until tomorrow. I've gotten most of them put together, but unfortunately, I need to get up for work in about 6 hours. I'd rather wait and do a good job than rush and post erroneous information.

I'll try and finish them over lunch and get them posted.

PS "Current limiting" is one of the settings that I'll cover later...

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01-24-2007 12:12 PM  10 years agoPost 46
Cybinary

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Looking forward to it Kamikazi!

Thanks again for everyones input...It has helped a great deal in making it clearer on who does and who should use gov mode.

I may go through your instructions Kamikazi and try enabling the gov just to see what the difference is...the only thing I am concerned with is less flight time, but that shouldn't really be an issue since I only fly my packs for 6-7 Min each anyway.

"Gravity is a Harsh Mistress!"

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01-24-2007 12:25 PM  10 years agoPost 47
murp

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Here is a relevant link, see the end of the post for instructions on how to setup - pretty much what CC tells you. I have two CC ESC's and both are in GOV mode, the GOV mode works great and I like the feel of it better, good luck

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t286892p2/

Cheers.

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01-24-2007 05:23 PM  10 years agoPost 48
eyeflyhelis

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i keep trying to get my cc connected to the pc but all i get is this message "no controller or invalid controller connected"

so who can tell me what im doing wrong?
PLEASE i have not used the gov mode yet but i cant wait to try it now
i bought both of my cc's used and didnt even know they had that. they both worked great out of the box.

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01-24-2007 05:57 PM  10 years agoPost 49
eyeflyhelis

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i have the medusa motor as well where should i run the timing ?

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01-24-2007 08:23 PM  10 years agoPost 50
eyeflyhelis

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got them on the phone today. Got to say i like those guys... GREAT HELP!!!!

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01-25-2007 02:16 AM  10 years agoPost 51
KamikaziRcPilot

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Ok, I just posted my document to my gallery:

http://runryder.com/helicopter/gall.../T-Rex_Tips.pdf

I decided to add the governor setup procedure to a document I started a little while back that contains serveral things I've discovered along the way since getting into the T-Rex. The section on the governor setup is at the end. It's not as complete and detailed as I would like, but I have several home and work projects on the burner at the moment and need to focus on them.

If anyone finds any flaws in my document, please PM me and I'll correct it.

Thanks!

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01-25-2007 03:04 AM  10 years agoPost 52
dkshema

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Kamakazi -- try this link, yours doesn't work, wrong file name!

http://runryder.com/helicopter/gall...2404_0908pm.pdf

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01-25-2007 03:18 AM  10 years agoPost 53
KamikaziRcPilot

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Oops! I messed up the script somehow. It should be fine now.

Thanks...

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01-25-2007 03:59 AM  10 years agoPost 54
eyeflyhelis

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KamikaziRcPilot i put in a good word for you today at CC. they reconized your id but forgot your name... i told them they should hook you up with a deal for trying to help everyone.

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01-25-2007 04:35 AM  10 years agoPost 55
FOX222

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Here is a link to Castle instructions to setup the governor mode. Follow it and no fiddling, it works! I have setup several 35’s and a HV85 this way and I am very happy with them. I do own a Jazz and it works great but so does the CC if you follow their setup. One thing to keep in mind, if you don’t have a strong enough motor or good batteries nothing will make it hold RPM. I have also found that you must reach target head speed around 75 to 80% in fixed throttle for the governor mode to work. But in governor mode your throttle curve could be anything from 30 to 100%. Just ignore the numbers and set it to your target speed.

http://www.castlecreations.com/down..._beta_info.html

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01-25-2007 04:39 AM  10 years agoPost 56
eyeflyhelis

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why dont we get some people to post there set ups on here? i'll save mine tomorrow and post it.

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01-25-2007 01:19 PM  10 years agoPost 57
KamikaziRcPilot

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Castle's instructions get you in the ballpark, but additional instructions could be added if their recommended setting doesn't work for your particular setup. For example, the governor gain. The instructions recommend using medium (50) for the T-Rex, but should add that if you're experiencing some pulsing that you should back it down to say 25, then gradually increment it until the pulsing starts, then back it down a few numbers.

When I get a moment today, I will call them about a couple of things that could be added to the instructions to help everyone, as well as one big one that's a safety concern: Switching from gov low to gov high, and what you should do with your throttle curves before doing so. As I mentioned before, I set my throttle curves down to 50 when I switched from gov low to gov high, thinking that would be a good starting value. Boy, was I wrong!!!

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01-25-2007 09:29 PM  10 years agoPost 58
KamikaziRcPilot

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Here are my current CC35 Settings using the V1.55 firmware:

#######################################################
# Castle Link Data File
# Created: Thursday, January 25, 2007
# Do Not Edit This File By Hand
#######################################################
Brake Ramp: Super Slow
Cutoff Voltage: 90
Hex55: 85
Brake Strength: 0
Direction: Forward (*)
Spool-Up Speed: 10
Throttle Type: Heli: Governor High
Current Limiting: Disabled
Brake Delay: .6 sec (Delayed) (*)
Motor Start Power: 44.9375
Throttle Response: 2
Motor Timing: Standard Advance (*)
Cutoff Type: Soft Cutoff
PWM Rate: 13khz (*)
Governor Gain: 42.7142857142857

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01-26-2007 04:11 AM  10 years agoPost 59
eyeflyhelis

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what program do you use to open it once you save it?

well i wrote it down anyway. - <stole the layout from KamikaziRcPilot>

Here are my current CC35 Settings
V1.55 firmware:

Cutoff Voltage: auto lipo

Cutoff Type: Soft Cutoff

Brake Strength: 0

Throttle Type: Heli: fixed end points

Brake Delay: no delay

Direction: Forward (*)

Brake Ramp: Super Slow

Motor Start Power: 59

Spool-Up Speed: 10

PWM Rate: 13khz (*)

Throttle Response: 5

Current Limiting: Disabled

Motor Timing: High Advance (*)

Govener Gain: 50

Spool- up Speed: 8

i did make a few cahnged and have not run these settings yet. i did it before i saved them ...deeh deeh deeh

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01-26-2007 05:47 AM  10 years agoPost 60
eyeflyhelis

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just switched over to gov low and gotto 80% not at my desired RPMswapped to gov high and at 0 0 0 0 i still hit solid red light on the ESC at 3/4 stick??????
cant figure it out it should be at 0. im goingto try and reset my throttle low end point to se if that will change it.

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