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01-29-2007 02:55 AM  10 years agoPost 61
Gino CP

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You guys nailed the ratings issue. They are based on prop applications. The links show which sets contain the CN12-RXC motor. Definitely the EDP-50XC, EDF40H, and the EDF50H.

Stick with the 0320 prop. Or trim the 4530. I do remember using the 4530 props back when my motors were wearing out too fast.

I have with me EDF50H-2 motors which I have yet to evaluate. I have no clue on how this motor will perform. I bought two of these out of ignorance from a lhs.

The EDF40H motor only is available from GWS Taiwan directly for $11.

When pressing on the prop, make sure it lies squarely on a hard surface or on a vise. Desolder the capacitor before pressing. To remove the prop, use a GWS gear puller. I didn't have a small pushing rod so I ripped apart an old stock tail motor and used its shaft to push.

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01-31-2007 05:45 AM  10 years agoPost 62
Splatcat

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Same response. Smaller prop with no guarantee for motor life. "My take" enjoy the DD tail it is very nice. Be careful installing prop.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 06:00 AM  10 years agoPost 63
Gino CP

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My spares arrived. To add to the confusion, the EDP-50XC has a CN12-124 motor hehe. And in bold letters says for 6v-7.2v use only haha. But the website clearly says the EDP-50XC has a CN12-RXC motor.

I emailed GWS again and hope to get clarification. Anyway time will tell if I got the CN12-RXC motor. I've logged 3.5 hours on it so far and hopefully, counting.

I could very well get the EDF40H ducted fan. However, I cannot find an online vendor with it in Hong Kong.

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01-31-2007 06:15 AM  10 years agoPost 64
Micro-Maniac

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Some of us went through this head scratching about all the voltage ratings a couple months ago -

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t303642p1/

Not that we came to any solid conclusion other than the high V = RLC and low V = RXC - Theres stat differences within the two groups with the same prop - I believe CN12-121 and CN12-124 are both CN12-RXC motors and have the same voltage rating but slightly different Amp Thrust Power & Efficiency ratings with the same prop.

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01-31-2007 06:41 AM  10 years agoPost 65
Splatcat

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Capt. & Gino

RLC low volt. RXC high volt. with a small prop. Gino I do not know what to say. If you ave the RXC motor you have the right one. It is placed upon the prop for the motors lifetime expectancy. Gino, ignore the voltage because they only offer 2 motors, RLC and RXC. I know that package numbers or GWS installed applications do not matter. There are only two motors no matter what they are installed or packaged with.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 06:44 AM  10 years agoPost 66
Gino CP

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Mr Chen replied and said the CN12-124 is the same as the CN12-RXC. They call the CN12-RXC a CN12-124 internally. The EDP-50XC according to him has the CN12-RXC motor, the same motor as the EDF40H ducted fan.

He emphasized using a smaller prop for 11.1v use. E.g. the 1"+ prop of the ducted fan which is rated for 11,1v vs the 3" 0320 prop of the EDP-RXC which is rated up to 7.2v.

At any rate, since the EDF40H=EDP-50RXC=CN12-RXC has been resolved, I hope to get the same results as Slider's experience with the EDF40H motor.

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01-31-2007 06:47 AM  10 years agoPost 67
Micro-Maniac

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Yeah the EDP-50X (CN12-121) doesn't seem to exist other than ratings on a package - It was those ratings that were throwing me off the most - Same motor(?) same prop same voltage ratings different output ratings.

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01-31-2007 06:51 AM  10 years agoPost 68
Splatcat

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Yes

Gino, 0320 is the answer and it rips. I know you know that so it is just for other folks.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 06:53 AM  10 years agoPost 69
Splatcat

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Sorry as opposed to the larger 3020

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01-31-2007 06:53 AM  10 years agoPost 70
Micro-Maniac

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Where are you getting 0320 from - I haven't seen that reference anywhere - Only 3020 (3x2).

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I found 0320 stamped on my 3020 props -

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01-31-2007 07:04 AM  10 years agoPost 71
Splatcat

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I ordered mine from T_w_r H_b__es. No advertisement money, no glory(greedy and lazy no research to find out where people are looking for answers pigs). RR isn't free for the site owners. It comes in the package that they advertise with the 3020 prop that are orange but, you get 2 black 0320 props. By the way I think that people have made the effort to contact GWS(which is pretty easy if you contact the home base by email. USA folks are buried in requests) may have helped create this prop for our application. As you probably know there is a 3020B black. This one is even smaller.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:08 AM  10 years agoPost 72
Splatcat

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I know that does not make sense but the orange 3020 I have is larger.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:10 AM  10 years agoPost 73
Splatcat

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Oh! look at my posts from my intial install that may give you perspective.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:10 AM  10 years agoPost 74
Micro-Maniac

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I was just wondering where you were seeing the numbers 0320 but I found it stamped on the 3020 props - The props come in orange black and gray - Why would a different color of the same prop be a different size?

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01-31-2007 07:12 AM  10 years agoPost 75
Splatcat

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Can't explain the orange one I have is just wider.

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:13 AM  10 years agoPost 76
Splatcat

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.75mm to 1.25 mm maybe. Is on the package I recieved and the props

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:18 AM  10 years agoPost 77
Splatcat

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Orange 1 I have says 0320 too

Dear God, please let it set down just as it took off. Amen.

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01-31-2007 07:20 AM  10 years agoPost 78
Micro-Maniac

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Maybe your orange one is a 3030 instead of a 3020? Both are 82mm long - I dunno the width difference -

Heh - You were reading my mind and beat me to it.

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01-31-2007 07:35 AM  10 years agoPost 79
Gino CP

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It says EP-0320 on my props too. I was under the impression 0320 and 3020 props were the same. The first number is its diameter in inches, the second its pitch.

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01-31-2007 07:50 AM  10 years agoPost 80
Micro-Maniac

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BTW - I tried to fly mine with a park370/4100/9t GY401 and DDtail today and it just wouldn't hold - The GY401 was letting it torque and was surging - Was quite difficult to fly - I tried different gains and head speeds but nothing made a difference - I put the 9t on by mistake and will replace it with an 8t and try some more tinkering -

It flew great with the brushed/9t motor 3-in-1 gyro and DDtail and it flew really great with the park370 G90 gyro and DDtail but the G90 took a dump and I only have a GY401 laying around to play with - Not sure why the GY401 doesn't want to hold at all.

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I dug my G90 back out and it seems I was able to eliminate it's drifting problem with a little sub-trim so I'm going to give it a try again instead of the GY401 since I can't seem to eliminate the surging problem of the GY401 and the G90 doesn't produce the surging - I'll see if it locks-in again with the G90 tomorrow maybe if the weather is decent.

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