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12-15-2015 07:33 PM  22 months agoPost 13301
B.T.D.T.

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And the AMA insurance is not the primary. So with an umberlla policy your money is better spent and with better coverage. I believe the AMA insurance payout limit is shared among all members claims that year.

But you need ama to fly on an Ama field.

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12-15-2015 10:02 PM  22 months agoPost 13302
Wesley-G

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No field is ama field anymore FAA rule you will be fined if you are not registered just that simple

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12-15-2015 10:06 PM  22 months agoPost 13303
Wesley-G

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The AMA has shown the only thing they want is money owning a multi rotor that can fly itself is not flying it's spectating.

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12-15-2015 10:20 PM  22 months agoPost 13304
cswhiting

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really a power play form them will see where it goes but if anyone was up to no good why would they register them why not put someone else name on it that is the next issue who is going to check them on all the craft

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12-15-2015 11:31 PM  22 months agoPost 13305
B.T.D.T.

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I mean AMA sanction event will require you to have AMA.

This new regulation is just like gun control. The ones who don't care will do what they want. It's another way the government wants to control the innocent and take your money.

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12-16-2015 12:00 AM  22 months agoPost 13306
madriver

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This registration thing will get all ironed out. At this point the FAA is being pressured to get some regulation out before Christmas, which is the time consumers will release about 400,000 quadcopters received from Santa.
I believe the AMA will prevail and eventually set the standards. The FAA will discover they need to listen to the advise of organizations like the AMA.
However, my understanding is that citizens of the US must register. Hmmmm, that leaves a huge gap. Anyone from another country can buy a UAV here, fly it here, and not have to register. That's unfair and maybe not too wise.

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12-16-2015 04:49 AM  22 months agoPost 13307
RP2180

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Faa

I don't think I'm going to register, definitely not before Feb 19 at least. The ama will continue fighting them, hopefully get them to realize that we are not the problem. I don't like adding my info to a govt database, and linking it to just a number. Too easy for someone to add someone else's number to a uav and fly it somewhere there not suppose to. If / when an accident happens, they will find the uav not the operator. Next thing you know you have authorities at your door for something you didn't do. No thank you!!!!! I don't think it is law, laws are voted on right? I don't remember voting on this. I do know that there IS a law excluding ama hobbyists from this sort of BS. Anyway I'm going to hold off on this for as long as I could, hopefully ama can sort things out. This govt is getting ridiculous!!!!! Land of the free......my ass. Are planes going to be able to read reg numbers from the cockpit? The Phantom that is flown over (insert dumb place here) going to have a reg number on it? Don't think so. I will place my ama number on my multirotors but that is it.

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12-17-2015 01:36 AM  22 months agoPost 13308
geomecc

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if you want to live in a "safe" world they scare you into giving away your "rights". were all supposed to put out ama number on all our aircraft anyways. which is essentially the same as what the faa wants

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12-17-2015 10:23 PM  22 months agoPost 13309
dyuen888

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Hold Off On Registering Model Aircraft

Dear AMA Members,

Yesterday, the AMA Executive Council unanimously approved an action plan to relieve and further protect our members from unnecessary and burdensome regulations. This plan addresses the recently announced interim rule requiring federal registration of all model aircraft and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) weighing between 0.55 and 55 pounds.

AMA has long used a similar registration system with our members, which we pointed out during the task force deliberations and in private conversations with the FAA. As you are aware, AMA's safety program instructs all members to place his or her AMA number or name and address on or within their model aircraft, effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. AMA has also argued that the new registration rule runs counter to Congress' intent in Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, otherwise known as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft."

The Council is considering all legal and political remedies to address this issue. We believe that resolution to the unnecessary federal registration rule for our members rests with AMA's petition before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This petition, filed in August 2014, asks the court to review the FAA's interpretation of the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft." The central issue is whether the FAA has the authority to expand the definition of aircraft to include model aircraft; thus, allowing the agency to establish new standards and operating criteria to which model aircraft operators have never been subject to in the past.

In promulgating its interim rule for registration earlier this week, the FAA repeatedly stated that model aircraft are aircraft, despite the fact that litigation is pending on this very question. The Council believes the FAA's reliance on its interpretation of Section 336 for legal authority to compel our members to register warrants the Court's immediate attention to AMA's petition.

While we continue to believe that registration makes sense at some threshold and for flyers operating outside of a community-based organization or flying for commercial purposes, we also strongly believe our members are not the problem and should not have to bear the burden of additional regulations. Safety has been the cornerstone of our organization for 80 years and AMA's members strive to be a part of the solution.

As we proceed with this process, we suggest AMA members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until February 19, the FAA's legal deadline for registering existing model aircraft.

Holding off on registration will allow AMA time to fully consider all possible options. On a parallel track, it also allows AMA to complete ongoing conversations with the FAA about how best to streamline the registration process for our members.

In the near future, we will also be asking our members to make their voices heard by submitting comments to the FAA's interim rule on registration. We will follow-up soon with more detailed information on how to do this.

Thank you for your continued support of AMA. We will provide you with more updates as they become available.

Kind regards,

The AMA Executive Council

Bob Brown, AMA President
Gary Fitch, AMA Executive Vice President

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12-18-2015 12:15 AM  22 months agoPost 13310
RP2180

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Go AMA

Fight the power!!!

If your not crashing, your not flying!

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12-18-2015 07:19 PM  22 months agoPost 13311
czynot

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what are laws? does rules override law?

If I wanted to give up my rights to live in a safe country? I would move back to china!

Tired of this bull crap govt trying to fix something that is not broken.
Like forcing me to buy health insurance that I cant afford. Spend my whole pay check to buy bull**** health insurance only to find I cant afford the co-pay.
I cant discipline my own child.
I cant drink a 12oz soda.
I cant smoke.
Soon. I wont be allow to fart or sh!t

SCREW THIS! I am going at sneak across the border back to china!

RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.

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12-19-2015 04:28 PM  22 months agoPost 13312
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New Member

I would like to welcome our newest member Sydeck C.

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12-20-2015 04:29 AM  22 months agoPost 13313
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12-21-2015 01:46 PM  22 months agoPost 13314
fastrc1

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Tony; before you leave please leave me your gliders. lolol

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12-21-2015 04:01 PM  22 months agoPost 13315
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He gluing all his gliders together. That's how he's going back. Lol

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12-23-2015 05:48 AM  22 months agoPost 13316
dyuen888

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AMA Q&A video on the FAA registration (January 2016 Episode 4)

It is about 18 minute - but it does clear up AMA intend towards holding off on the FAA registration
http://air.modelaircraft.org/

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12-23-2015 10:19 AM  22 months agoPost 13317
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Welcome Sydeck!



Steve
RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.
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12-24-2015 04:30 PM  22 months agoPost 13318
RP2180

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Question for faa

If at the end we are forced to register. Would that mean we can fly anywhere that is 5 miles away from airport? All parks are fair game as long as,we have a spotter and don't fly over people's heads. That's what the registration is for, right? Kind of like registering your car. If I have a multirotor that is registered with the faa, registered with the ama, and I have a ham license. If I decide to fly at a local empty park, I don't want to hear crap from any type of authority. If that is what is being offered by registering, then I might think about it.

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12-24-2015 04:35 PM  22 months agoPost 13319
RP2180

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Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays

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12-24-2015 05:53 PM  22 months agoPost 13320
fastrc1

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RP 1280. No no and No. Not in a city' park regardless of proximity to an airport. Read the Parks dept rule book. 5 mile rule is Ama's rule telling you to let them know you're operating in proximity. Floyd Bennet follows that rule

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