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11-25-2006 02:36 PM  11 years agoPost 1
luixitoyo

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Hi:
Im planning to replace my R50 with a trex 600 with fp4900. Do you think it is a good choice? Does the trex had more punch than r50? Do you prefer trex600 instead of r50 for 3D flying?

Thanks

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11-25-2006 03:23 PM  11 years agoPost 2
MrMel

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If you have the R50,why not get the Raptor E620SE, then you have plenty of spares from your old machine.

Just a thought.

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11-25-2006 03:27 PM  11 years agoPost 3
luixitoyo

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For a similar performance, the raptor will use 10s batteries that are too expensive.

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11-25-2006 03:33 PM  11 years agoPost 4
MrMel

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Raptor can be fitted with 6s as well, they have cut alot of weight on it so I dont expect it to be that much difference between the T600 and the E620.

I can tell you exact in a few weeks though when I get my 620SE

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11-25-2006 06:11 PM  11 years agoPost 5
SRH990

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As long as you run premium battery packs, i.e. not the Align ones to start with! I'm using the Flightpower Evo20 4900 packs and my Trex 600 definately has more power than my R50 running a 2000rpm headspeed with a Hyper 50 motor running on 30% nitro, The Trex is putting out more HP and weighs less. The down side is that flights with the Trex 600 are around 5.5 - 6 minutes although my average flight on the R50 was around 8 minutes, notice I said 'was' as since I got the Trex 600 to go with my Swift and Trex 450 SE the R50 stays at home

Steve -Trex 700N, Trex 600N, Raptor 550E, 450SE, Mini Titan, Logo 5003D, Beam E4

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11-25-2006 06:23 PM  11 years agoPost 6
docjoe

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I have both and the Raptor is and feels much heavier than the T-Rex. The T-rex 600 is more nimble as well.

Personally, I prefer the TRex 600 although I still like the Raptor. I fly with the 4900s and the TP extreme 5000. You'll be disappointed in the flight times because they're about half that of the nitro heli.

As with Steve, my Raptor mostly stays at home.

Joe
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11-26-2006 07:08 AM  11 years agoPost 7
tiny-flyer

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i would stay with the raptor unless you can get good batts like EVO6S and it will fly with around the power of r50.if u put it on 8-10S i go with 600.

" your never to low until you hit the ground ''

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11-26-2006 12:11 PM  11 years agoPost 8
Raptor Rulezzz

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have both and the Raptor is and feels much heavier than the T-Rex. The T-rex 600 is more nimble as well.

Personally, I prefer the TRex 600 although I still like the Raptor. I fly with the 4900s and the TP extreme 5000. You'll be disappointed in the flight times because they're about half that of the nitro heli.

As with Steve, my Raptor mostly stays at home.
I feel the same way. IMHO the T-rex 600 is a much better helicopter out of the box than a Raptor 50. The head is better designed.

The flight times are short, but it's so easy to swap the battery that it's really a non-issue... only the $$$ for the batteries SUCKS!

Cheers,

Richard



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11-26-2006 01:35 PM  11 years agoPost 9
4cyclic

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Does the trex had more punch than r50?
I tried a friend's T600 with 10t pinion a 20c 6s1p 5000 Hyperion pack, Radix 600's although it flew well, power wasn't all that great and less that a 30% nitro 50 Hyper Sceadu. Next step will be the 11t and then the new xl motor with 11t. We'll see then...

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11-26-2006 02:26 PM  11 years agoPost 10
m60e3

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Trex all the way.... more punch.... less mess!!!

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11-26-2006 04:56 PM  11 years agoPost 11
Raptor Rulezzz

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I tried a friend's T600 with 10t pinion a 20c 6s1p 5000 Hyperion pack, Radix 600's although it flew well, power wasn't all that great and less that a 30% nitro 50 Hyper Sceadu. Next step will be the 11t and then the new xl motor with 11t. We'll see then...
I fly a T600 with 11t straight pinion and FlightPower 6s1p 4900 batts. and I get WAY more punch than a Raptor 50, especially in the first 2 minutes. After that it get's somewhat similar to the Raptor 50, but with the new 600XL motor the punch should be there even after 5 minutes of flight.

Cheers,

Richard



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11-26-2006 05:40 PM  11 years agoPost 12
docjoe

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I get WAY more punch than a Raptor 50, especially in the first 2 minutes. After that it get's somewhat similar to the Raptor 50, but with the new 600XL motor the punch should be there even after 5 minutes of flight.
I have to agree with Richard about more punch. My R50SE with the OS 50 hyper seems sluggish to me. I run a 12T helical pinion/gear (which is the equivalent of the 11T straight) with the Evo 20 4900 and the TPX 5000 and it has much more power than the R50. Maybe it's that Hyperion battery. I haven't heard much about that one unfortunately so I can't say. The TPX is 25c and the Evo 20 is 20c but they feel basically the same. Can't comment on the Hyperion.

Joe
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11-26-2006 05:41 PM  11 years agoPost 13
COOKIEULT70

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So can the Trex be geared to fly as long as 50 size glow ship with the same (but not better) performance as the glow?

GAHH!!! Someone call 911!! My wallet is bleading heli parts!!

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11-26-2006 05:52 PM  11 years agoPost 14
docjoe

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I can get about 7-9 minutes of flight time with the newer batteries but this includes practicing autos and not continuous 3D. A lot of people that go through 4-6 minute flights with their T-Rex 600s are doing continuous hard 3D. If you're doing less aggressive stuff, then the 10T straight pinion should give you more flight time.

Joe
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11-26-2006 07:22 PM  11 years agoPost 15
SRH990

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So can the Trex be geared to fly as long as 50 size glow ship with the same (but not better) performance as the glow?
Not really, but I only used to normally fly my Raptor 50 for around 8 minutes as us old 'uns need a rest! I fly the Trex 600 for exactly 6 minutes and push it harder than the R50. Battery technology has improved since the Trex 600 was released, I'm sure we'll see lighter batteries of the same capacity appear soon so you can pack more capacity in for the same weight but I can honestly say I don't find the flight times a problem.

Steve -Trex 700N, Trex 600N, Raptor 550E, 450SE, Mini Titan, Logo 5003D, Beam E4

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11-29-2006 01:51 AM  11 years agoPost 16
maxchao

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Duluth, GA - USA

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I'm just curious, has anyone calculate dollars/minute for gas for R50? Let say just some easy flips/rolls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm thinkink if I get a nitro bird I can go out and fly "when" I feel like doing it? No need to figure when I should charge the battery because keeping the battery full isn't good for it. No need to worry about LiPo exploding. Unlimited flight time per "trip".
Also, how about 600vsR50 in terms of money??

Josh

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11-29-2006 03:23 AM  11 years agoPost 17
Jason Chow

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just my two cents, ive gotten up into the larger helis recently playing with all sorts of gas helis and some larger electrics like the new e raptor, trex 600, and logo 10. honestly to say, i would prefer gas now since you get the same consistant power throughout the flight where as a battery drains and gets weak at the end of the pack. a gas heli, you can fuel and go, and usually the times are much longer than an electric heli. not to mention, yes, the cost of fuel is high and you will consume alot of it, but batteries are super expensive to, trex 600 for example, the tpx 5000mah pack which is pretty much one in a few for the trex 600 that are good, costs $320. you will probably get 4 or more, thats $1000+ in batteries, not to mention, if you crash and break one, you lost an additional $300 in the crash. charging is also a pain, each pack takes 1.5 hours on average to charge, and you have to buy a charger capable of charging 6-10 cells, and not to mention a balancer.

with nitro, i find you can gas and go and while you do pay $30 for a gallon of gas including stuff like glowplugs and after run oil, it does get up there to, but you don't loose $300 necessarily when you crash from the battery, you can fly whenever you choose, and you can fly longer with more consistant power. you don't have to fear over draining the battery, over heating...etc

just my .02

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11-29-2006 03:37 AM  11 years agoPost 18
Tomie

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I second to Jason.. If Ill ever buy a 30-50 size heli Ill go for Gazzer its $1500 cheaper (and thats only the lipos).

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11-29-2006 04:08 AM  11 years agoPost 19
lowflyer101

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lipo or nitro,, they both have it owns con/pro. my friend fly 60 size nitro... a can of nitro cost him $25 and he only 5-6 flight on it.. a big electric heli 6s lipo will get $ 250-300 but they are the long run.. you can get 100-200 flight out of them... so i consider lipos is still better plus no oil mess, ozone safe

beside, when you electric , there always other choice of juice supplies,, V28/ A123 battery.. the A123 is great choice on big heli, it kick out 35C , tought as nail in crash ... life alot longer than lipo.. price only 1/4 compare to lipos..

<-freedoom flyer->

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11-30-2006 04:05 PM  11 years agoPost 20
modifyit15

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Spartanburg, SC

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I am thinking of getting rid of my R90SE to purchase a T600 or a E620SE.
Reason A: I want to eliminate the cost of a minor crash cost.

B: Tired of Fuel

C: it will be Cleaner

But the T600 seems to be the cheaper of the two. In consideration that people on here say that to get the same performance form the E620SE that you will get from the R50 and T600. you will need a EVO 10S 4900 or 12S2p a123 cells.

I really like the E620SE only because I own TT right now, but I dont want to have to purchase A 10s pack that will be near $600

Fly 60% take heli home Fly 150% take parts home

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