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11-25-2006 01:20 PM  11 years agoPost 1
RhelipilotC

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I am not going to "step" on someone elses thread, but I was wondering how many of you think that shooting down a RC heli is asinine?

Personally, I think it is pretty stupid. It serves absolutely no purpose except to say I have a bigger !%@^ than you. It has nothing to do with being able to afford to do it. Not that I am rich, but I could do the same thing if I wanted, and I am sure many of you could. But why would I?

When I think of the type of person that does that, I think of the same person killing small animals just for the heck of it, going to dog fights, beating up homeless people, and the like....

Sure, it is a free country. Do what you want.

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11-25-2006 01:33 PM  11 years agoPost 2
bobj

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Hi

I do not like hunting or any other blood sports so lets get that out of the way right away.
But I have blown up in the air a couple of old planks for the fun of it using fireworks in one and explosives in the other.
Last year we killed a old Shuttle at the MS fly-in in Prague by chasing all over the sky with a load of MS Swifts (similar to Zagi's) until some one hit it and killed it.
BTW I was flying the Swift that killed the Shuttle and JK was flying the Shuttle.
We did it causes the models were old peices of crap you couldn't do anything else with and it was a fun end for them.

BTW we let some guy have the receiver out of it afterwards and set fire to the rest:-)

Life too short not to have as much fun as you can.

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11-25-2006 01:36 PM  11 years agoPost 3
Nightstalker

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To be honest its up to them, i dont see a problem with it, it ant harming anyone and ant costing anyone,
its kinda the same in the new james bond film, they filmed a stunt near me where they rolled a ASTIN MARTIN DBS and smash it up, ok its for a film but still this is a £100.000+ car and alot of film use radio controlled models and smash them up,

i know there for films and that they make money but it is still smashing something up that works perfect,

would u not cry more seeing this crash???

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11-25-2006 01:41 PM  11 years agoPost 4
NitroPolymer

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Most people outside our hobby think BUYING helis for what we pay is asinine, even if we never intentionaly destroy them. While I respect your right to have an opinion, I certainly think it is judgemental and exclusionary to the moral and legal inclinations to those around you.

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11-25-2006 01:50 PM  11 years agoPost 5
Colin Mill

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BTW I was flying the Swift that killed the Shuttle
Bob - now why doesn't that surprise me

Colin

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11-25-2006 02:00 PM  11 years agoPost 6
bobj

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Hi Colin

I nearly forgot this was actualy the second time we had tried to kill that Shuttle, first time was with a load of Zagi's up our local site and it lasted to flights before some one got it but even then they only clipped a tail blade so I had to auto it in, hence the need to take it to Prague and finaly really kill it:-)

http://www.jkheli.com/video/Kill%20Shuttle%20SM1.zip

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11-25-2006 02:02 PM  11 years agoPost 7
Nightstalker

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i think iv seen that vid b4, but cant check as the link dont work

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11-25-2006 02:23 PM  11 years agoPost 8
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If you don't like it or condone it then there is this neat little feature on the top right corner with an "X" on it. Slide the cursor up there using the mouse and push down on the left button. Problem solved. Just like a book if you don't like it then don't read it.

Carpe Diem!!!

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11-25-2006 02:30 PM  11 years agoPost 9
DOKEY

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11-25-2006 02:37 PM  11 years agoPost 10
hootowl

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As long as it's a Raptor I have no problem with it

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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11-25-2006 02:37 PM  11 years agoPost 11
Colin Mill

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Hi Bob

I guess after all these years its safe to confess that the Whitney, Walker, Powell, Hull and Mill consortium all thought you had an unfair advantage in slope combat with your eyes being further apart than anyone else's

Colin

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11-25-2006 02:48 PM  11 years agoPost 12
WJackson

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So long as its a hirobo ,,,,

RIP Roman
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11-25-2006 03:12 PM  11 years agoPost 13
broncoholic

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In this months issue of Model Aviation it talks about this very thing. The president of AMA states the following, in the article;

"We really need to police ourselves and avoid doing dumb things which have end up haiving a negative effect on our sport. In the past month I've dealt with a modeler flying an RC aircraft at press box altitude around a stadium taking pictures during a nationally televised football game. Another man thought that putting expolsives into a model and filming while he blew it up in flight and then posting it on the Internet was a good idea. Last month the problem was a collision between a RC model and a hang glider.
These are just the incedents of which I was made aware of. I suspect that I only hear of a small percentage of the dumb things that some AMA members do, but those I am told of hurt the sport tremendously.
I am often made aware of these incidents by governemental agencies such as the FAA. Believe me they watch our every move.

We cannot afford to do "dumb things" if we are going to be allowed to enjoy our sport.

Justifying our use of airspace, frequencies and facilities is difficult enoughwithout being our own worst enemy by doing things that appear to the public and the government to be irresponsible.
We must police each other to avoid this. If you know someone who is doing something that fits into this category, then you need to speak up and try to stop it. Dont let something that could jepordize our hobby happen because you were afraid to speak up.

I myself do not care what other do with the personal things, but if it interferes with others rights and can cause others to lose their rights to enjoy the hobby, then it is selfish and inconsiderate. I am sure others would be ticked off if they lost there right to fly because of something like what is mentioned.

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11-25-2006 04:14 PM  11 years agoPost 14
MrMel

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I say, Let them do it if they want to.

Ever seen Brainiac? Those poor house-trailers, at least one bites the dust every show

Golfers? How many golf-clubs havent been thrown, broken and so on.

I once executed my CellPhone with a 12 gauge shotgun, total satisfaction after all the issues I had with it.

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11-25-2006 04:31 PM  11 years agoPost 15
Colin Mill

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Well, there are now commercial outfits in the UK where you can go and pay to blaze away at a model aircraft. Apparently they have the planning permission for that use of the land (which they need if there are more than 21 'occurances' in the year) and liability insurance etc. I know because a well-known UK pilot was recently approached when the usual pilot couldn't do the job at one of these places. So whatever we might feel about it I guess it's here to stay with or without the BMFA's blessing.

Colin

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11-25-2006 04:32 PM  11 years agoPost 16
fitenfyr

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The incidents that the AMA cited are nowhere near the type of responsible event the guy who is shooting that heli is doing.

He is on a controlled PRIVATE range and is taking all reasonable precautions to do it.

He is not at an AMA field or public area in which the act would be looked down upon by the government.

Jason Stiffey
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11-25-2006 04:36 PM  11 years agoPost 17
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I've seen comments about this before...and who cares...even better..WHY ? If someone wnts to urinate in their fuel tank I could care less !! I did not buy the heli and I won't destroy (intentionally) it either...Not my $$$ and not my business. I understand tht it's being done in a controlled enviorment and that's all I could possibly be concerned about.

What about all the FOOLS that fly their nitros in public areas like we have seen casually talked about all the time on RR ??? They are the menace to the hobby that could wind up effecting our sport in a very bad way...not the guy who wants to have some expensive but safe fun and blow up or shoot down his heli...he's not any concern or worry at all.

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11-25-2006 04:39 PM  11 years agoPost 18
ant_mb

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Who thinks shooting a heli down is asinine?
Im still trying to figure out why people are having such a hard time with this. It's his helicopter, his gun and his range. Get over it and let the guy have some fun.

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11-25-2006 05:06 PM  11 years agoPost 19
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I once executed my CellPhone with a 12 gauge shotgun, total satisfaction after all the issues I had with it.
first of all the batteries are hazardous waiste to be depossed of properly. Second there is a program for old phones to be donated to victims of domestic violence for calling for help. my point is there are usually better things to do with your stuff than distroy it. it just takes a little effort to do.
He is on a controlled PRIVATE range and is taking all reasonable precautions to do it.
with the caliber rifle he's using there is NO safe place inside a 5 mile radias if a shot is misdirected.
What about all the FOOLS that fly their nitros in public areas like we have seen casually talked about all the time on RR ??? They are the menace to the hobby that could wind up effecting our sport in a very bad way...not the guy who wants to have some expensive but safe fun and blow up or shoot down his heli...he's not any concern or worry at all.
They are idiots and we should do something about thme,,just like the knmb-skull that's shooting the heli down. THey ALL need to be more respectfull and responsible.
he's not any concern or worry at all.
that's scary,,,,,mixing guns, explosives, alcohol, flying heli blades/parts. That should concern you.
I've said it before , it's a free country do as you like. But it's waist IMHO. An old model bearly able to fly, I can see the fun in that. But a fully functioning heli, that could go to better use,,,,,(like selling to a friend that offerd good money for it),,,, waistfull, selfish, and not being a good ambassador to our sport. For all that think it's OK,,,think how you would feel if someone got hurt while doing this. He may do a "safe job" (after dealing with him I doubt it, he can't even handle himself in an adult manner using a keyboard) but he gives the idea to others that might not be as "safe", especially trying to out-do the last crazy a$$$ thing done with a heli. Not a good direction to go.

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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11-25-2006 05:35 PM  11 years agoPost 20
NitroPolymer

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Wurthless,

May I suggest to you that some of the flack you have received is not due to your viewpoint on shooting the heli in terms of it's potential for negative consequences regarding safety, but due to your irrelavent concept of "better things" he could do with it. It is not your place to decide what he should do with his heli, his ammo, his money, or his time.

To say that it would be okay to do this with a heli that is "barely flyable" as opposed to "perfectly good", as you put it, takes focus from safety, and makes you sound like he should not have a right to do with his helicopter as he pleases. I can assure you that this is not a very compelling way to present your case, and will continue to encourage dispondants from giving you grief.

I strongly suggest that if you must keep beating this dead horse that you keep focused on safety and public sentiment, and not on any individuals right to do what they please with their belongings. If you took even a little time to think about the politcal views of the typical firearm enthusiast, you would realise that stripping away the rights of individuals is one topic that remains sqaurly in their crosshairs (no pun intended).

Good luck.

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