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11-24-2006 07:32 AM  11 years agoPost 1
Furious Predator

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I just watched it...if you have not...you should.

you might be thinkin "blaahhh...its just another person preaching about global warming, i have heard that story a million times"...perhaps...but not like this...

watch it...then tell me your not going to do anything.

i have always been interested in the earth itself, in many ways. one thing i have always done is try to make things more efficient.
i already changed every light bulb in our house with 15W flourecents.

i keep an eye on my fuel consumption and do what ever it takes to get the best milage my engine is capable of. for now i'm stuck with a Ford ranger with a V6 4.0L, but you might be surprised to hear that even though its a 91'...i get close to 30mpg on it, and i plan on doing some things to squeeze more out of it.

i also intend in the near future to get a solar panel setup (maybe even small wind turbine), maybe not enough to be 100% self sufficient, but enough to put a dent on the consumption. maybe even just enough to power all the lighting in a house, or as other people mentioned in a post i created about solar panels....produce all your hot water.

even in high school. for a project, i used a spair heli rotor head, and a DC motor to create my own working wind turbine.

not trying to sound like a hippy, but i'm trying to do my part. this video should be both a slap in the face and an inspiration to all of us.

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11-24-2006 07:44 AM  11 years agoPost 2
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Isn't it great when "doing the right thing" also saves you money too.

Not often that happens.

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11-24-2006 07:57 AM  11 years agoPost 3
Furious Predator

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well....the problem atleast with solar panels is the high cost...a lot of people want to see a return on it. but if we were all to start buying them, even a couple small ones. the prices would go down, just like everything else we make. like you said, there would be a return if we do the right thing....we getting to live being one of many. but like stated in the movie, people are afraid of doing the right thing...so....if you get more efficient cars, gas prices go up....so!?!?! your using LESS of it to begin with!?!?! people only think of the price per mile, not the gallon per mile! i personally dont care what i pay, i dont burn a gallon of fuel trying to save 5 cents per gallon at another station.

right now as far as i know, solar panels in large part are still made/assembled by hand. but wouldn't it be neat, to see robots assembling the panels they are powered by? if enough people buy them to bring up the demand to a point where faster and cheaper manufacturing is needed, then more people will buy them, and it will continue to get cheaper and cheaper.

i have a small project in mind. total cost will be aprox $250.
i'm going to buy two lead acid batteries that hold 7.5Ah each ($24 each over here), and tie them in parallel for a combined 15Ah, which will be charged and maintained by a 15W solar panel(about $150). the panel is aprox 1 foot by 3 feet long and. and in ideal conditions, be capable of almost fully charging from dead, the two batteries in a single day. but probably in reality would take two days.
then i will use this power to run other stuff...mainly my RC stuff, electric heli's and planes will quite literally be running on free fuel.
right now i'm saving money for a new 50 machine, and i'm still debating between the 600 and a Rappy50. if i buy the 600...it would be the most efficient heli around, and i could really put my solar station if you will, to work
i would like to see prices on lithiums go down a bit though.
i personally dont care that i may never see a return on this, but just the fact that i know my heli's and maybe other electronics are running clean energy puts my mind at ease.

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11-24-2006 02:25 PM  11 years agoPost 4
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Lots of places use solar power. Take a look at this FedEx building... -Steve

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11-24-2006 02:30 PM  11 years agoPost 5
Rotor

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Global warming hoax was created by scientists wanting more grant money.

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11-24-2006 02:40 PM  11 years agoPost 6
LIL'INFERNO

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im so glad al gore dident become president! we would never hear the end of his doom and gloom BS ! ! !

Ignorance can be fixed, Stupid is forever !

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11-24-2006 03:01 PM  11 years agoPost 7
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Makes sense to conserve limited resources, global warming or not.

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11-24-2006 03:30 PM  11 years agoPost 8
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oh and you guys probably don't believe that the ozone layer is becoming depleted either. Are you so stuck in your little conservative worm holes that you can't see anything but what you want to see?

Yes Global warming is a theory, but it's one that if it's proven could be disasterous. It's so easy to conserve energy, why not do it just for the sake of it, and if global warming turns out not to be true then the only thing that happened is that you probably saved money.

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11-24-2006 03:51 PM  11 years agoPost 9
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well this planet has suffered far worse things to her than us, and its still here. im not going to go stick solar panels on my roof or a big wind powered generator in my back yard to save a spiff of cole just because someone says im destroying the planet. i enjoy driving my truck that gets 12 miles a gallon, because there is no reason to buy an electric car, unless i want to save 5.00 on my taxes at the end of the year because i own a enviromentally friendly auto. all these people that talk doom and gloom do the exact things they are telling us not to. dont that seem a little strange? all in all there is nothing that we can do to destroy this planet, harm yes! destroy no! there are worse gasses that come out of the planet natrually than what come out of our exaust pipes and factories. so all the tree huggers can cry but they still do everything that the rest of us do!

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11-24-2006 03:53 PM  11 years agoPost 10
Rotor

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bgjames111. Are you so stuck in your little liberal worm hole that you can't see anything but what you want to see? I suppose you don't believe in Santa Clause either? See how easy things can be turned around?

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11-24-2006 04:18 PM  11 years agoPost 11
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Plenty of evidence on the global warming deal. Ozone hole is real, and we do need to do something drastic. Problem with the ozone hole was caused by the atmospheric testing, back in the 60's. We are told that chlorine atoms are the culprit, that's BS. The Soviets were the first ones to damage it, the ozone layer, then we, in our macho show off in 62, followed up with even larger nuc, and did more damage.
Many articles on the web about it.
Wouldn't it be nice to not have that $350.00 a month light bill. Would be easy to do. Solar panel roof, battery room, all 12 volt lighting. Have to have wind generator in order to have ac, or just have minimal power company furnished electricity. Could probably cut the bill to 1/3 of current use. That is until they raise the rates, to keep thier income level up.
Only hard part is the current cost of solar panels. Don't know the square ft. cost, but is probably pretty severe.

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11-24-2006 04:23 PM  11 years agoPost 12
Rotor

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Also plenty of evidence against global warming deal.

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11-24-2006 04:26 PM  11 years agoPost 13
LIL'INFERNO

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theres also evidence that the hole in the ozone opens larger it gets smaller and at times its not even there so you cant say that its us making it worse !

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11-24-2006 04:29 PM  11 years agoPost 14
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Rotor: Post some links against Global Warming. Would like to read em. Seriously, look em up and post em. Would be interesting to have some opposing views and facts.

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11-24-2006 04:31 PM  11 years agoPost 15
LIL'INFERNO

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http://info-pollution.com/common.htm

http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives...environment.htm
heres some things

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11-24-2006 04:53 PM  11 years agoPost 16
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Interesting stuff: Here is another:http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/qthinice.asp

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11-24-2006 05:09 PM  11 years agoPost 17
Rotor

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Jim,
To be honest with you. I have studied this theory to the point of being tired of studying it or posting about it. Every time I hear on tv or see in newspapers some scientist or someone who is supposed to be knowledgeable about it say it as if it is a scientific fact I just want to throw something at the tv. From what I have studied there is just as much information about whether there is global warming or whether there isn't global warming. I choose to believe there is no actual long term global warming. Do we need to do everything we can to help the environment without being ridiculous? Yes. Do we need to believe it is a fact just because some scientist that is living off of some government grant says it is? No...

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11-24-2006 05:27 PM  11 years agoPost 18
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I think we all get tired of hearing it, but something is going on up there. The polar caps are shrinking , and that could bode bad news, in the next 50 years.
I kind of equate the polar caps as natures ac system, and when they continue to shrink, the end result has got to be a warmer atmosphere..

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11-24-2006 05:59 PM  11 years agoPost 19
sharam

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What made me switch and take heed of the global warming issue is the exact measurement of CO2 concentration.

It was always problematic for me to believe how they could tell minute temperature changes - I find it hard to believe that we can measure 0.1 degree changes in temperature over decades, especially since such accurate temp readings/measurements were not available 50 - 100 years ago.

However, one can very accurately measure Carbon Dioxide concentrations in the air today and also in pockets of air that have been captured inside ice or rocks or other "time capsules." When you measure how much this value has skyrocketed, you begin to understand the potential damage that we are doing. Insofar as CO2 concentrations can be correlated to temp changes, then the story becomes quite clear.

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11-24-2006 06:31 PM  11 years agoPost 20
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What I would like to know is why does the ozone layer open up over areas where there is no heavy population.It seems like there would be massive holes over areas like NYC but instead they open up in unpopulated areas like iceland,sounds a littel fishy to me

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