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11-24-2006 05:13 AM  11 years agoPost 1
MEDFLIGHT

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Can anyone tell me?

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11-24-2006 06:33 AM  11 years agoPost 2
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Ah yes a good winter time debate. This should be interesting.

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11-24-2006 08:13 AM  11 years agoPost 3
AnnihilaT

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You can do a single piro-flip. You cant really do a single chaos. Chaos is prolonged, high speed (rudder), multiple piro-flips.

At least if you ask me!





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11-24-2006 02:45 PM  11 years agoPost 4
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For me a piro-flip is each of the complete revolution that compose a chaos.

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11-24-2006 03:09 PM  11 years agoPost 5
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Last time this came up I thought the consensus agreed that piroflips maintain the same orientation; i.e. the nose points in the same direction at the completion of each flip. With a chaos the orientation is offset 90 degrees on each flip.


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11-24-2006 04:13 PM  11 years agoPost 6
tnbulldog

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I agree with playfair.
A piroflip always initiates the flip in the same orientation whereas a Chaos the flip is initiated at 90° intervals.

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11-24-2006 04:47 PM  11 years agoPost 7
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Oh yes. I omitted that detail. However, that part is debatable since many people will call continuous piro-flipping at a high rudder rate chaos. True chaos as defined by CY (i believe it was) is in fact as playfair describes and is seldom seen even by the "pros".





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11-24-2006 07:00 PM  11 years agoPost 8
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People have pretty much hijacked the term Chaos to reference Sustained Stationary Piroflips out of the confusion between Piroflips and Chaos -

There are very few people who are able to perform a true Chaos and those spectating are very hard pressed to tell the difference between a True Chaos and simply Sustained Stationary Piroflips because a Chaos is made up of rotating Piroflips so those who actually can perform a Chaos don't because it's very difficult and not really worth it if noone can even distinguish it -

So now the term Piroflips is being used for various styles of mainly transitional Piroflip manuevers and the term Chaos is being attached to Sustained Stationary Piroflips which is further confusing the distinctions -

Old School Chaos = Rotating Stationary Piroflips -
New School Chaos = Sustained Stationary Piroflips.

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