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11-23-2006 03:12 PM  11 years agoPost 1
funkyflyer

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I spent last night programming a 14mz for a friend. It had no instruction manual, but even after downloading the manual, my brain hurts. Easier? I think not. I will be getting a DX7 when they come out, I really don't care for the little supercomputer. Either the DX7, or a 9Zwc2 with a SS module. I just don't get how the 14mz is supposed to be easier to program. Too many parameters, too many options, just too much.

Wow, the ground was closer than I thought.

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11-23-2006 03:25 PM  11 years agoPost 2
ch53e

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I still fly with my trusty old JR 10sx .. it's easy to program and you don't need a college degree to understand it.

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11-23-2006 03:32 PM  11 years agoPost 3
P.J.

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Gotta love the bling

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11-23-2006 03:33 PM  11 years agoPost 4
spruce

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I have no problems with my 14mz. maybe its better that you stick with "simple" radios if the 14 gave you such a hard time.

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11-23-2006 03:38 PM  11 years agoPost 5
dgshaffer

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JR all the way. My 9303 works just fine. I've seen guys fly 3D like mad with old 6 channel radios. The radio doesn't make the pilot

Of course if I flew a Raptor I'd need more help.

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11-23-2006 04:47 PM  11 years agoPost 6
jdmoore64

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You know, I just have to love the old days when bling was a word not yet invented. Transmitters were simple and all you did was turn it on. God, I miss the good ole days.

John

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11-23-2006 04:59 PM  11 years agoPost 7
3dfreya

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Funkyflyer if you want a easy radio to program then DONTget a 9z they are a pain in tha ass too.And I guess Spruce was implying that your stupid because you found the 14 mz harder to program than you thought Its so dam funny how guys try to justify their purchases of a $2200 radio that really aint all that.The only thing I find useful with the 14mz is the 2048 resolution which is nice but the spectrum 7 channel will have faster resolution that that,all for a mere $350 and it does what a 14mz cant do-no glitchs and no interference issues to worry with.

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11-23-2006 06:27 PM  11 years agoPost 8
Roamer

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but the spectrum 7 channel will have faster resolution that that
Ok. I can't help myself.... The correct term would be "higher resolution". Not "faster resolution".

Of course, you might have been trying to say the DX7 will have "lower latency" instead.

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11-23-2006 06:33 PM  11 years agoPost 9
thenewguy

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The 14MZ is not for everyone. I have owned several radio's, and love my 14MZ. With that said, I only use about 5% of what the radio can do. It's a more all purpose radio. If you owned jets and helicopters and who knows what else. Then you could use the full capability of the radio. You should always look at what you are going to be using it for, and buy according to that. If you have a basic airplane and a blade cp. You probably don't need a 14MZ. If you want one and can afford it, then buy all means get it. The one thing I like the most about it. Is it's allowed me to widened my hobby. I have 2 helis and a fling wing. I just bought a mini edge 540. I love that I have all the options to support this things. Yes you can support the 4 I named with a 9C super.I know! If I could do it over, I would have bought a 12MZ. My buddy got one not to long after I bought my 14. I like the feal of his better. Smaller more like a 9C. He had to help me threw the hole setup of mine. Now that I know it, it's some what easy. Also if you go to the big dog's web sites. They show you how to use the set ups too.

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11-23-2006 06:56 PM  11 years agoPost 10
ant_mb

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Of course if I flew a Raptor I'd need more help.
Don,

I've seen quite a few of your Evo's that need alot of help at the end of the day.

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11-23-2006 07:14 PM  11 years agoPost 11
funkyflyer

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And I guess Spruce was implying that your stupid because you found the 14 mz harder to program than you thought
Yea, gotta love it. I actually thought I did a pretty good job considering I had no manual, and a few things are definately called something else, but hey, I guess I am just stupid.
Seriously, though, it is not as easy as they say to program. However, the feel of the gimbals is nice, and the resolution on the collective is way better then the 9c. But it is an uphill battle trying to figure out everything it does without any manual to refer to. Today at the field, I figured out a couple of short cuts and got a little more familliar with it, but for the price, they can still keep it. Heck, the 9c is more radio than I use anyway, I just like the better resolution of the upper model systems.

Wow, the ground was closer than I thought.

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11-23-2006 08:53 PM  11 years agoPost 12
Yug

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Heck, the 9c is more radio than I use anyway
Yep, there are actually very few features one really needs unless you are seriously into scale modelling. Resolution and latency & feel are the most important on my list, the rest is baggage.

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11-24-2006 04:00 AM  11 years agoPost 13
359PETE

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I've seen guys fly 3D like mad with old 6 channel radios. The radio doesn't make the pilot
Amen to that. The best pilot at our club was flying with a 6102 up until about a month ago when he upgraded to a used 8103. He can fly circles around me and my new shiny 9303.

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11-24-2006 10:44 AM  11 years agoPost 14
tchavei

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Portugal

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Try to program a 9Z at the field... the 14MZ is ALOT easier.

At least the 14Mz has full names on the options and not 3 letter shortcuts.

I still love it and now I'm using it for my XRB. Kinda funny flying a heli that is half the size of the transmitter

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11-24-2006 12:32 PM  11 years agoPost 15
dialarotor

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Futaba T7UHF going strong here. Don't even own a governor or 611 gyro.
Flies just fine. Been programming is for so long the manual is burned into my peanut sized brain. KISS principle, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID, it's just a toy.

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11-24-2006 01:21 PM  11 years agoPost 16
joeyM

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I know a couple of guys that bought the new radios--one bought the 14mz and the other the 12mz--both had to be sent back because they both had a problem with the new radios ......Joe

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11-24-2006 01:45 PM  11 years agoPost 17
GM1

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14MZ
After owning a 14MZ for a couple of years now, I can see how you can get lost in the radio if you are new and have no manual. Mine was in the first shipment into the US and I have lots of experience with it now and use many of the features that make it so special. I can set a 14MZ up with a base setting for a new helicopter from scratch in about an hour, assuming I have no template to copy. If I have a similar model. I can do it in about ten minutes. Unlike the 9Z, the 14 comes with everything defaulted off, you have to turn on everything while making decisions about what you want where. While it can be a bit time consuming, the sheer volume of available features makes the 14 MZ (and the 12Z) among the most flexible and vesatile radios on the market. I can feel the difference in the resolution of the 2048 vs the 1024, particualrly if you have been flying high res and have to go back to low res for some reason like helping someone set up a 9C or 9303.
The 14MZ is now and old and trusted friend that can do nearly anything I ask of it. With the user upgradable software, I hope to keep this one around for a long time. 2.4 GHz SS would be nice and I'm sure there is work being done on it but for right now, I'm thrilled with what I have.
Gordie

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11-24-2006 02:26 PM  11 years agoPost 18
UH-60PILOT

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I think a lot of the reason guys buy these expensive radios is just to play keep up with the joneses. Maybe there are a few guys who can really benefit and enjoy the features of these radios but if you can make it work with what you got then stick with it. It's funny to me that guys are so into what looks good in radios instead of what really is an advancement. Color computer screens and on board MP3 players won't amount to any improvement in your flying ability and it won't keep you from having technical problems like lockout induced by glitches. I know of several guys who sold good radios at a loss to get the latest and greatest and none of them are happy. If you want to make a smart move with your money then buy a DX7 or wait for an 8, 9 or ten channel version of the 2.4Ghz radios to come out. As far as the processing speed and all of the knat's ass specification debating that goes on, just fly what you've got. JK, CY and AS were flying better than most of us five years ago on what was the state of the art back then. If one can't fly as good as them now on what was available five years ago then maybe one should spend one's money on fuel for practice. My 2 cents.

Kenny Thompson

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11-24-2006 02:35 PM  11 years agoPost 19
leejax01

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I 2nd the Jones's idea. Seriously, the radio is really nice and I may get one just to have one, but need one, I don't think so. My 9C super is great...but so was my regular 9C.

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11-24-2006 03:11 PM  11 years agoPost 20
tchavei

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Cranet: I know german which probably would give me an advantage. Does this mean I can't compete?

TOny


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