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11-22-2006 03:15 PM  11 years agoPost 1
Jeff Greunke

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What are you guys using for extreme 3D flying for the e620? I want to make this thing fly as good or better than the trex600. Any recommendations on BEC, ESC, batteries, motors and gyros? I plan on using JR rx and servos. Can't wait to get this thing flying

Raptor 30, Raptor 50, Raptor 50#2, E620

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11-22-2006 04:38 PM  11 years agoPost 2
cptsnoopy

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From reading Gary's post's on rcgroups, I would expect a Z-power Z50A-600 on 12s to be the "hot" setup. He says that it is slightly better than the actro 24-?. I don't remember if it was the 24-3,24-4, or 24-5. After flying both the eRaptor conversion with an actro 24-4 and a stock Trex-600 I am under the impression that you will need to invest quite a bit more cash to get them to fly equally. The Trex starts out a little over a pound lighter than the eRaptor conversion on a diet. Since I have never seen the E620SE in person I don't know if there has been any weight savings over the stock plastic nitro version.

We have both of my brothers Trex-600's running on 6 16C 2100's. One with the stock motor and esc running 6s-3p and the other with a hacker C50-15xl/77-O-heli running 9s-2p and even though they weigh more than the stock Trex by almost a pound they both perform much better than my late eRaptor with the 24-4 running 9s-2p.

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11-22-2006 04:44 PM  11 years agoPost 3
George Matthews

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Gee Jeff thought you where gettin married.
Does the future Mrs. Jeff know about this?

George Matthews

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11-22-2006 05:04 PM  11 years agoPost 4
Jeff Greunke

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Yea Georg she knows about it. She gets a $500 dog and I get a new Heli. Maybe I'll be the first kid on the block, in toledo, with a eraptor

Raptor 30, Raptor 50, Raptor 50#2, E620

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11-22-2006 05:10 PM  11 years agoPost 5
Jeff Greunke

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Thanks for the advise cptsnoopy. I don't see any reason why the e620 shouldn't fly as well or better than the trex600, with the right setup I think TT did lighten up the main airframe with 80% of the parts compatable with the nitro version 50. With all the spare parts I have that works out real well

Raptor 30, Raptor 50, Raptor 50#2, E620

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11-22-2006 05:34 PM  11 years agoPost 6
rcman

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Mine came in yesturday I am going to start off with a Z-50 800 on 10s and I also have a Actro 24-4 to try as well.
David

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11-22-2006 06:05 PM  11 years agoPost 7
Ben-T-Spindle

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I think that the hottest setup for extreme power will be a Neu Motors 1912/1Y, 9t pinion, and a TP 10s Extreme Power packs. It will take some flying to get find the best battery but that setup should hold 2400 headspeed during the most extreme 3D maneuver.

They also make the 1915/1Y that can be used with a 12s LiPo and would give you over 2400 headspeed with a 9t pinion but would weigh more.

You will need a high current ESC that can handle 80+ amps. I will be using a Phoenix 85 HV and a Kool Flight Systems UBEC.

Z-motors and Actro are very good but if you really want extreme power Neu Motors are the way to go.

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... BTS

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11-22-2006 07:15 PM  11 years agoPost 8
spruce

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Maybe I'll be the first kid on the block, in toledo, with a eraptor
Nope, Try again. Mine is sitting at UPS in maumee as we speak

BTW. A Trex 600 with a TP 6s5000mah (a pack that will actually fly for more than 5 minutes) weighs 7.6lbs ready to fly. I believe Gary said an E620se with 10s3700 weighed 8-8.1 pounds.
I will bet money that with the same equipment the Trex and 620se will weigh within 4-5 ounces of each other.

weight will not be an issue.

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11-23-2006 12:51 PM  11 years agoPost 9
HugeOne

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I see mine with a 1915-1Y on 12S 20C 3300mAh. I'll use two UBERBEC in parallel for redundancy. This setup should give HS over 2300, so metal grips will be a wise investment, IMO.

-Hugo

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11-23-2006 12:58 PM  11 years agoPost 10
Ben-T-Spindle

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Have you found anyone who has a helicopter version of the 1915/1Y with fan in stock?

... BTS

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11-23-2006 08:53 PM  11 years agoPost 11
OICU812

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Mine came in yesturday I am going to start off with a Z-50 800 on 10s and I also have a Actro 24-4 to try as well.
David
RC let us know how that goes. I am interested to see what the real life data is on headpseed and performance of that Z Motor, I oredered one as well to try on the E Rap.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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11-25-2006 02:35 AM  11 years agoPost 12
rickc

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I think that the hottest setup for extreme power will be a Neu Motors 1912/1Y, 9t pinion, and a TP 10s Extreme Power packs.
Won't that exceed the 30,000 rpm of the motor? A fully charged 10S will produce 34650 at 825 per volt. Sounds like a nice setup but I wasn't sure if the motor would handle it.

Rick

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11-25-2006 02:37 PM  11 years agoPost 13
4cyclic

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A Trex 600 with a TP 6s5000mah (a pack that will actually fly for more than 5 minutes) weighs 7.6lbs ready to fly.
Try 7.06 lbs for a ready to fly Trex 600, including 9451's servos, Hyp 6s 5000, Radix 600 carbons and 611. That's one pound less...

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11-25-2006 03:33 PM  11 years agoPost 14
rickc

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Try 7.06 lbs for a ready to fly Trex 600, including 9451's servos, Hyp 6s 5000, Radix 600 carbons and 611. That's one pound less...
Closer to a 1/2 pound, but still that is a lot in peformance.

Rick

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11-25-2006 06:42 PM  11 years agoPost 15
cptsnoopy

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please tell us what an actuall E620SE or e550 weighs without and with the choosen battery packs. Claiming it weighs something without proof is getting old...

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11-25-2006 09:07 PM  11 years agoPost 16
spruce

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try 7.6lbs, I was the one weighing it on a calibrated scale. 7.6lbs ready to fly !

this was with TP 6s 5000s. dont know about your scale or batteries

btw an 8lb 10-11s raptor 620 will blow a 6s Trex out of the water, put 10s in that Trex and see how much it weighs then

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11-25-2006 09:13 PM  11 years agoPost 17
spruce

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please tell us what an actuall E620SE or e550 weighs without and with the choosen battery packs. Claiming it weighs something without proof is getting old...
Go find gary from Tp packs on rc group he has one with the weights on 10-11s posted. Btw I posted his weights earlier in this thread

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11-26-2006 01:32 AM  11 years agoPost 18
cptsnoopy

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try 7.6lbs, I was the one weighing it on a calibrated scale. 7.6lbs ready to fly !
this was with TP 6s 5000s. dont know about your scale or batteries
Lol, yup put that big battery in there and the weight goes up. I already know the weight of the Trex, just weighed both of mine again to be sure. with 6s-2p it weighs 7.04lbs (calibrated) and 7.65lbs using 6s-3p. (that gives us 8minutes of aggressive, not hard 3d flying)
The Trex with a C50-15xl on 9s-2p weighs 7.95lbs.

My eRaptor weighed 8.65lbs (same calibrated scale) before its diet. after the diet it weighed 8.4lbs running 9s-2p (4200mah). I have heard claims from Gary that someone he knows got an eRaptor under 8lbs with extensive work to lighten it up.
btw an 8lb 10-11s raptor 620 will blow a 6s Trex out of the water, put 10s in that Trex and see how much it weighs then
again I gotta see it to believe it. until then you are all talk.
The only eRaptor that has come close is the one Gary ran at 2700hs. Now that I can understand doing well. I have flown both the Trex and the eRaptor (not the e620se) and the Trex has the edge even when it weighs over 7.95lbs.

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11-26-2006 01:47 AM  11 years agoPost 19
spruce

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again I gotta see it to believe it. until then you are all talk
Its out there you just need to open your eyes and look. have fun with your 5 min trex 600's

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11-26-2006 02:17 AM  11 years agoPost 20
OICU812

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When you are talking about pute performance on the Big E Helis, weight matters, however there is a line, when you have a high v system like a 10S setup and beyone 12S, 14S etc, things are alot different. The rex 600 is a fine machine, where the e raptor will dominate will be the fact that you can go from 6S to 14S without any cg issues or modifications, in a rex 600 you are limited to 10S max and when you are looking at doing that, you are limited to 3700mah packs in series therefore your time will be down to 4 mins to get performance.

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