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11-21-2006 08:22 PM  11 years agoPost 1
rotoryrob

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I know this subject has been covered several times but I just got to setting mine up.. I have it installed on a 120 swash and it ground checks good with the system on off.

these are my questions:

The FMA sensor has what looks like green covering on the four horizon sensors are they suppose to be removed or is that the way they are.

second how do you turn it on... do you use an aux channel for gain with a dial so you just increas the gain and it turns on.. cause on the display it says off. I fly with camera person and have not really had a reason to use this but thought I would try it out and see if it helps with stabilization with nose in hover..

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11-21-2006 08:41 PM  11 years agoPost 2
aambrose

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Yeah, remove the green covers. Might have to use a toothpick to get small pieces removed.

I have mine set up with the gain on a slider. 0% is off.

What heli did you put it on?


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11-21-2006 08:54 PM  11 years agoPost 3
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I put it on my logo 10 stretch to try out.. and will probably use it on the gsr260 later. Although I am not sure where to put the sensor on that one...LOL

so when I increase the gain it will turn on?

also I am missing one of the jumper wires double male end from receiver to receiver where can I get one?

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11-21-2006 09:18 PM  11 years agoPost 4
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I have mine on the GSR and it makes it VERY stable. It's pretty darn stable without it, but the AP-2000i makes it much nicer at higher altitudes.

When you increase the gain, the AP-2000i should show the %. If properly installed, it should be "on" whenever you turn your servos/Rx on. It won't be "active" until you increase the gain beyond 0%. It's been awhile since I installed mine so if I'm not clear, I apologize. Someone else will likely chime in if I'm wrong.

Should be able to get the wire from your LHS or order it online. Here's one place:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...?ProdID=JRPA050


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11-21-2006 11:55 PM  11 years agoPost 5
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Thanks Tony for all the help... I think it was the green covers that kept it from turning on.

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11-22-2006 01:31 AM  11 years agoPost 6
dreslism

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Thanks Tony for all the help... I think it was the green covers that kept it from turning on.
ACtually the green covers should not matter. The % displayed on the lcd is from the gain input from your Tx. The other thing that can keep it from turning on is not turning on Stabilization in the setup menus. It needs to be set to IRx in the setup menu before it will turn "ON".

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11-22-2006 01:40 AM  11 years agoPost 7
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thanks
Thank you I will have to make sure it is set to that.. I looked last night and don't remember it on the menu.. the set up didn't take much time at all.. Are you telling me I don't need to take the green covers off or that it just shouldn't make a difference when it comes to turning it on.

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11-22-2006 02:12 AM  11 years agoPost 8
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Scott means that the covers will not change the display information on the LCD on the AP2000i. You screen should show the gain % or OFF and the input voltage.

I don't have any jumper wires instock now buy it's a standard Futaba male on both ends. Should be easy to find one.

Also, in the menu you will find the Stabilization feature right after the "Phase" setting. It will say "Stab IRx, Stab IR+ or Stab OFF". Select the Stab IRx. Your IR sensor should be oriented in that manner, also.

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11-22-2006 03:23 AM  11 years agoPost 9
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thank you I thought I had done that it is oriented at 45 degrees and I thought I used the IRx for that config. The display does read off and the voltage is reading 5.35 volts. is that too much? But It does not ever show that it is on.

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11-22-2006 04:09 AM  11 years agoPost 10
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If you have "Stab IRx" in the setup menu it is on and waiting to accept a gain input coming from your Tx on a slider.

Make sure that your gain channel on your Tx is really outputing when you move your slider. (Plug a spare servo in and watch it move, or look at the LCD display for that channel on your Tx if you have a servo output display on your Tx.)

If all that is working, then try reversing your gain channel in your Tx and see if that makes a diff.

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11-22-2006 10:38 AM  11 years agoPost 11
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Also, 5.35V is fine. The AP2000i is rated for a voltage range of 4-14V.

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11-22-2006 05:19 PM  11 years agoPost 12
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Are you telling me I don't need to take the green covers off or that it just shouldn't make a difference when it comes to turning it on.
Yes, you will need to remove the green covers from the sensors. After doing so, crank the gain up a bit (50% or so) and move your hand toward each sensor. The swashplate should move in the opposite direction relative to the sensor you're testing.

Got any pics of the setup?


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11-22-2006 05:34 PM  11 years agoPost 13
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Hurray working at last... It was the missing wire that I did not have.. I am soo embarrassed.....LOL I had to reverse the aileron but that was the only thing. So do I have to increase gain in the air where the horizon can be seen? Is there a comfortable gain that most are using?

thanks for all the help

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11-22-2006 05:44 PM  11 years agoPost 14
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Cool!

Some keep the gain up (30%, 50%, etc.) all the time. Personally, I leave it at "off" while taking off then increase it once in the air if I feel I need to. I've never found that I need to increase it at an altitude where it can "see" the horizon. If there are trees around and I increase the gain, it will stabilize just fine and it will be fine once I clear the trees.

Depending on the situation, I will keep the gain up while descending. Rarely do I land with the gain turned up but I have before. At higher altitudes, I'll crank it up to 100%. You can still nudge it around at that setting but it wants to stay put. You'll soon find what works best for you and your heli.


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11-22-2006 06:03 PM  11 years agoPost 15
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where did you mount yours on the GSR260

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11-22-2006 06:14 PM  11 years agoPost 16
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here are some of the pics

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11-22-2006 06:31 PM  11 years agoPost 17
aambrose

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Follow this link for some pics of how I installed it on the GSR.

Christian (HeliKalle) made some nice carbon fiber frames for my sensor mount!

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t264310p1/?p=2044817


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11-22-2006 06:40 PM  11 years agoPost 18
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very nice.. I remember talking to him before when he was making them for others.. i will have to get back in touch with him.. looks very nice on your ship... that is the setup I need...especially on that big boy! I don't take the smaller ships up that high.

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11-22-2006 06:46 PM  11 years agoPost 19
aambrose

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Christian is a great guy!

The GSR hovers great without the AP-2000i, but the device improves upon the GSR's abilities. The benefits are realized most while hovering at higher altitudes. I love it!


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11-22-2006 06:52 PM  11 years agoPost 20
rotoryrob

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thanks for all your help Tony..... have a Happy Thanksgiving!!

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