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11-21-2006 04:16 PM  11 years agoPost 61
wakeboarder2342

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favorite quote, no honey thats the same helicoptor i have always had

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11-21-2006 04:17 PM  11 years agoPost 62
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Don't understand? Seems to be keeping your interest up. Check your post, you have missed a few keystrokes. also.
Instead of attacking everyone, why don't you try to add something.
With your infinite brilliance, we should all be graced with finite knowledge

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11-21-2006 04:28 PM  11 years agoPost 63
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Wake:I think you missed this. It should be required reading for the X generation.
http://madeinusa.org/nav.cgi?info/whybuy

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11-21-2006 04:35 PM  11 years agoPost 64
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11-21-2006 04:38 PM  11 years agoPost 65
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i find it laughable that someone so uneducated and with such stupid views would keep opening his mouth when every point he tries to prove is shut down?
That statement only goes to show what you are really all about....hot air !!

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11-21-2006 04:42 PM  11 years agoPost 66
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Damn it Wake: I am impressed. Seems like you were in diapers, during the Carter years. But boy, did you catch up fast. With all the knowledge that you seem to possess, maybe we should run you for President. By your own statement you have already added more finite knowledge to this forum than any other poster. Wow man, thats powerful.
Get a grip rookie. You can't comprend. Go check your facts and figures, before letting your mouth overload your A$$.

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11-21-2006 04:44 PM  11 years agoPost 67
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11-21-2006 04:48 PM  11 years agoPost 68
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Please jimco, since i appear to be a little slow, how about you show me these Facts and figures i am supposed to be looking at?

i showed the facts and figures on inflation, interest rates and consumer confidence as compared to the carter years and today.

what exactly are you taking about?

You cant back up a single thing you are talking about so you result to name calling only!

I onthe other hand mix my name calling in with the facts and figures so i dont look like a complete moron such as yourself!!

So before you go off and change the subject once again. Please show me some facts that prove your point that we were all better off in the carter years before we outsourced all of these jobs to other countries!!

im waiting

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11-21-2006 04:50 PM  11 years agoPost 69
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Wake: You must have graduated from UCLA. Brigham Young would have ran your crazy A$$ off campus. Never heard such stupidy. Keep on taking that dollar out of your piggy bank, and putting back 80 cents. See just how long your theory works.

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11-21-2006 04:57 PM  11 years agoPost 70
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It is not taking a dollar out and putting .80 back in.

if you would have read the article i posted you would have learned that every dollar spent outside the US returns around $1.46 in new economic value for the US.

Im sorry but my views are shared with nearly EVERY conservative, and brigham young would have shared my views exactly..

You will not find a more right wing conservative then myself. So where in the world do you get off saying i went to UCLA?

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11-21-2006 05:09 PM  11 years agoPost 71
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Read your own posts; As to the economic value returned, not one nickel goes into the pockets of the average working American. Only the upper 10% of this nation, benefits from this program. The middle class of this country is the driving force, and the middle class is shrinking like a rotten squash in the sun. People in this nation are loosing ground everyday, and you Xers just keep on trucking. Get the blind fold off and look around. When eventually, people are making dimes, they can't buy stuff that costs a dollar. Don't care where it's made.
Do me a favor, take a 25 year old couple out house hunting today. Get back to me with your contract. Probably cannot show em anything that they can afford.

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11-21-2006 05:20 PM  11 years agoPost 72
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Wake: Go back and read the entire article that you linked. Bodes nothing but bad news for The American worker. Really talks about nothing but job loss in the US.

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11-21-2006 05:31 PM  11 years agoPost 73
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this argument that people are losing jobs because of "so much outsourcing" is just not correct ... look at the unemployment figures http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.toc.htm ...

i read that article and theres many things i agree with and dont ... i understand the argument to open up factories and all that thinking it would be good for us but it just doesnt make any sense ...

say for example for us to open up a factory making toys ... the amount of money it would cost in the U.S to buy the land, build the factory, buy the machinery, and hire workers would be huge ... now why would a toy company spend all that money when they can spend half of that to get the job done somehwere else ...

its easy for you to say but that brings me back to what i said before ... if you wanted to buy a new heli radio and someone on here that lived in japan was selling one for $100 and there was someone on here from the U.S selling one for $600 would you buy it from the guy in the U.S so you keep you're money in the U.S and give it to a fellow citizen? ... i doubt it ... it'd be nice to have the $500 in your pocket ... its the same thing business' deal with

unemployment statistics are down not up ... and also like i said before the only reason we outsource is because its cheaper ... well these countries we outsource to now have pretty good economies of their own so pretty soon it wont be cost effective to outsource as much as we do right now and then even more jobs will be available here ...

even if we did start opening up our own factories there is no way the U.S can compete on the global market ... who is going to trade stuff like toys, clothes, and cars with us when they can trade with a different country for half the price ...

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11-21-2006 05:32 PM  11 years agoPost 74
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11-21-2006 06:15 PM  11 years agoPost 75
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Let us put this argument a little closer to home> Your family owns an ac and plumbing company. Your said that the hands make excess $50.000 a year, insurance, company truck, all the benefits.
Now suddenly, your parents decide to increase profits. Not an unusual decision in a capitalistic society. First thing you do is fire all of the hands that make 20 to 25 dollars an hour. Hire illegals, less qualified hands, just get em from wherever. Cut wages to 8 to 10 per hour. No benefits, no company truck, no insurance. Wow, man look at the profits go up. Drop your service rate price 20% under the competition. Business will boom. Quality will start to suffer and pretty soon, it will bite you in the A$$.
Now , what about those hands that you fired. What happened to them. They are now loosing big time. No purchasing power, lower standard of living, etc. The new hands, they don't know any better, so everything is lovely.
Of course, the new car dealer is not selling those new cars and trucks to your old hands, because they cannot afford em. Your used car dealer may be doing fine, selling to your new hands.
What about your clothing stores that don't benefit from the old hands anymore. The grocery store doesn't sell nearly as many groceries to the old hands, and the new one don't spend much either.
What happens to your housing sells.??
Get the picture, it doesn't have to be global, it can very easily work on the local level.
Want to see a mini disaster, let Wal-Mart move into your small town, and watch the shops start closing. Wages start sinking, and it goes on and on and on.
Enjoy your world economy while it lasts.
It will eventually make America a 2 class society, lower, and upper.
As I said before, the middle class is rapidly dissappearing.

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11-21-2006 06:25 PM  11 years agoPost 76
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what about this argument that i made?
this argument that people are losing jobs because of "so much outsourcing" is just not correct ... look at the unemployment figures http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.toc.htm ...

i read that article and theres many things i agree with and dont ... i understand the argument to open up factories and all that thinking it would be good for us but it just doesnt make any sense ...

say for example for us to open up a factory making toys ... the amount of money it would cost in the U.S to buy the land, build the factory, buy the machinery, and hire workers would be huge ... now why would a toy company spend all that money when they can spend half of that to get the job done somehwere else ...

its easy for you to say but that brings me back to what i said before ... if you wanted to buy a new heli radio and someone on here that lived in japan was selling one for $100 and there was someone on here from the U.S selling one for $600 would you buy it from the guy in the U.S so you keep you're money in the U.S and give it to a fellow citizen? ... i doubt it ... it'd be nice to have the $500 in your pocket ... its the same thing business' deal with

unemployment statistics are down not up ... and also like i said before the only reason we outsource is because its cheaper ... well these countries we outsource to now have pretty good economies of their own so pretty soon it wont be cost effective to outsource as much as we do right now and then even more jobs will be available here ...

even if we did start opening up our own factories there is no way the U.S can compete on the global market ... who is going to trade stuff like toys, clothes, and cars with us when they can trade with a different country for half the price ...
and im not sure i understand where you were going with your example ... what you're saying doesnt have anything to do with outsourcing it has to do with illigal immigration

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11-21-2006 06:25 PM  11 years agoPost 77
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Now Mr. Skateboarder,Get yourself a copy of Economics 101, read the book , instead of eating the covers. You may be college educated, but you were not the one that paid for it. You need to take a lesson in common sense. You are really lacking in that category.
While you are at it, check the number of Americans that are stock owners and figure the percentages of profit being returned to the working guy. Might surprise you.

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11-21-2006 06:29 PM  11 years agoPost 78
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nothing is stopping the working guy from investing in stocks except himself ... why should it be handed to him ?

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11-21-2006 06:32 PM  11 years agoPost 79
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Evo: Only using the illegals as an example, I also said others and wherever you can find em. Talking about price reductions.
You argument has merit. Some things are a given. America does not make a good rc unit, so go where you have too. Argument is , why don't we.???
As far as unemployment goes, check the quality of the jobs. That is one figure that never comes up. If a $100.000 a year engineer lost his job, but found one at Wal-Mart, true it's a job, but look at the lost purchasing power of the individual.
go to the link that Wake posted, and read the whole thing. Tells the tale.

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11-21-2006 06:34 PM  11 years agoPost 80
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Evo: Disposable income stops him.

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