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11-24-2006 05:29 PM  11 years agoPost 321
Matthew3

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wave maker is going to be installed on sunday.
played with it in recovery tank,very cool.
you can feel the pulse of high and low water flow with your hand.
(% of flow can be adj. from 0%-100% also adj. timing ecx...)
my Idea was to push the water back and forth from side to side
not front to back. this is all possable with the system.
the system uses a 12v transformer to power the blowers ,
earth magnets hold them on the tank walls.
also has a light to simulate the moon (small led).
I will post more photos of system installed next week.

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11-24-2006 11:12 PM  11 years agoPost 322
RCtaz

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thats a coral beauty angel, I do have a purple tang though. Ill try to post a pic of it this evening.

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11-25-2006 08:11 AM  11 years agoPost 323
Luckylandings

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Matthew3 / RCtaz

Ahhhhm VERY NICE..

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11-26-2006 01:00 AM  11 years agoPost 324
PrimaryB

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Ive read through every post and it hit me. There was no flaming.Kudos to those who have salt tanks cuz Ive always wanted one. I clicked on links that took me 125000$ setups that looked beautiful. Ive clicked on your pics that showed stunning coral pics anyone would be proud to show off. So I'm not bashful so i'll ask...

Edit: Based on a 100 gal tank.

How much does a saltwater setup cost minus tank and living creatures? Ive seen some elaborate setups posted here but in a nutshell can someone spell out the initial costs or post reputable links on the ideal setup providing you had the chance to do it again.

I realize this takes your time and I am grateful for it. Thank you.

Butch R

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11-26-2006 01:48 AM  11 years agoPost 325
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well.....

It all depends on how you do it. Its kinda like heli's in the fact that it cost how much your willing to spend. I know thats not the answer your looking for but its the truth.

Basic setup
tank
stand
metal halide lights
pumps
heater
filter
sand and live rock..

$3000 easy depending on how much live rock you go with.

In my 29 gallon tank I have the equivelant of a ready to fly Fury with all new gear!

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11-26-2006 01:51 AM  11 years agoPost 326
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How many gallons you looking to start with? You can get anything from a nano tank to, well you have seen them!

I would go with at least 55 or 75 though. That is what most fish require and your water gets easier to maintain because it is more stable. But if you have the time for the up keep, any will do just fine! I have an extra skimmer and a hang on twin filter that I would let go for cheap if your looking. A 30g tank with glass lid and light if your local..ha!

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11-26-2006 01:54 AM  11 years agoPost 327
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$3000!! Damn Taz! Where you shopping? LFS? haha. I got less than half of that into my 55g.

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11-26-2006 02:32 PM  11 years agoPost 328
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Thanks Lucky but not local. I will revisit some of the previous posts for links to online dealers. The different methods of water filtration is a little confusing. Some seem to be more tolerant of the owners lack of routine maint while still providing optimum water test levels. That was a question more than a statement. Just like in helis no one wants to have to back up before moving forward.

Butch R

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11-26-2006 03:35 PM  11 years agoPost 329
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I run a fluval canister filter on my 55 and a 1500 fluval on my 110g. But it is probably overkill. I have lots of live rocks also. I was told with enough live rock, you dont really need a filter with a SW tank. Just a good skimmer. Guess there are a few ways to go about it. All up to what you want really.. PM me if I can help at all. But I guess it all comes down to personal choices, what type of fish you want, etc. You can have a fish only tank, or a reef, etc. Would all reflect upon what type of filtration you would want to get. And sorry, I didnt see earlier that you wanted 100g. Guess it would depend on what kind of corals you buy. RCTaz was right really, depending on what you want. Was just giving him a hard time!
I would start with cheaper corals and learn as I go if I were you though. Once you learn more, then spend the $ on the more expensive corals. I would spend money on good lighting, reverse osmosis, cool wave makers , etc., first though. But I am one guy with an observation/opinion. If you have the $, then just get it all at once. Hell, if you have the $, just have someone do it for you and blame them if it crashes!.
Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.. James

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11-26-2006 03:41 PM  11 years agoPost 330
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If your setting up a reeftank plan on at least 20 dollars per gallon. This would be a basic setup, the inwall system i posted earlier is closer to 50 dollars per gallon as i have over 8k into it!

You can do it cheaper but plan on at least the 20 per gallon rule to get you started with decent equipment and stuff.

Dont go cheap on the equipment to start, if you do you will buy twice! if your going reef just get 2lbs per gallon of good quality live rock and a good skimmer, either an ASM or a euroreef and nothing else!!

Dont get a canister filter, hang on filter or any other mechanical filters, they are nitrate factories adn are unnecessary. Spend your money on good live rock. I recommend the following dealers for fair prices and good stuff

http://www.marinedepot.com
http://www.drfostersmith.com
http://www.premiumaquatics.com

once again spend an hour or 2 everyday on reefcentral before you spend a dime would be my recommendation..

good luck its a fun hobby but like they said, plan on having more then a fully blinged fury into it!! that might put it into perspective!

favorite quote, no honey thats the same helicoptor i have always had

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11-26-2006 04:00 PM  11 years agoPost 331
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I agree with WB with dont go cheap!!! It cost you double in the long run!

OK Lucky,
you need to get out of Oregon and head on down here to Austin this coming weekend and do a little flying!!

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11-26-2006 04:00 PM  11 years agoPost 332
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Dont get a canister filter
Huummm, I was told they would reduce my nitrate big time! That you just never change the media out and that it would start feeding itself by housing your good bacterias? Water has already gotten twice as clear, and polyps are out more and better color to them. And if you have a fish only tank with sandy bottom only, wouldn't you want one anyway?

You have been in to it allot longer than I have though. Would love to hear WHY a canister filter is bad. I don't do well with just dont because I say it's bad. Like to know why.lol. But would love to hear your opinions. Thanks..

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11-26-2006 04:05 PM  11 years agoPost 333
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OK Lucky,
you need to get out of Oregon and head on down here to Austin this coming weekend and do a little flying!!
I hear ya Taz! Getting colder up here. I need to take a trip down to see my Mom and brother anyway.. Has been awhile.. Maybe I can look you up when I get down that way.. I didn't mean cheap really! I just wouldn't buy everything from a LFS.. Will cost you twice as much..
I found my lights used and replaced the bulbs. How much is there that can go wrong with a light? A balast? A bulb?..lol Live rock you can find cheaper from individuals, salt is salt.. Not sure what you guys are saying you will have to replace? Remember, I am still new to this myself.. I am all ears!!

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11-26-2006 04:09 PM  11 years agoPost 334
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For me I went with power compact lighting.....Cheaper.....Only to figure out that the kind of kritters I like and want need more light (metal halide).......more expencive (plus the cost of the lights I already have )..

Thats what I was talking about with cheaper.

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11-26-2006 06:44 PM  11 years agoPost 335
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The problem with canister filiters or any other "mechanical" filter is they build up with crap over time which then breaks down and causes nitrates.

Your LFS is full of crap, do a search on reefcentral. Or better yet have a look at the last 4 yrs tank of the months, i can guarantee you wont find a single canister filter inthe bunch. NOT ONE!!

The fact that your water looks "twice as clear" as when you started means nothing. YOu cannot "SEE" nitrates, phosphates or any of the other organic compounds we are trying to get rid of.

Every month or 2 i will run some rowaphos and some activated carbon in my sump. Other then that i rely 100% on my calcium reactor and my 4' beckett skimmer, as well as a full 30 gallons of macro with mangroves.

Im going to post some updated pics of my tank later today ill link when they are done.

favorite quote, no honey thats the same helicoptor i have always had

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11-26-2006 07:21 PM  11 years agoPost 336
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a few updatd pics, sorry im not the best at photography!!

Its hard to see in the pics but i have also added a wavebox, makes a 2" wave acrossed the entire tank!! moves up to 5000 gallons per hour!! that along with my tunze streams and returns gives me close to 10000 gallons per hour!

[img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/wakeboarder2342/Reef%20Pictures/topview.jpg?t=1164568888[/img]

favorite quote, no honey thats the same helicoptor i have always had

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11-26-2006 08:33 PM  11 years agoPost 337
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nice power compacts can support most things but you don't get the effect of metal halide. I wouldn't recommend a canister filter for any type of reef, it's like using an undergravel filter in saltwater. most people now run refugiums on reefs and I highly recommend them.

Justin - Team Horizon, Team Byron
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11-26-2006 09:15 PM  11 years agoPost 338
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there it is

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11-26-2006 09:18 PM  11 years agoPost 339
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purple tang??

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11-26-2006 10:32 PM  11 years agoPost 340
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yea

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