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03-08-2006 09:35 AM  11 years agoPost 21
vavavoom

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For a more stable hover, make sure you are at a reasonsable height from the ground. A good guide to this is at least a height equal or greater than your rotor diameter. Otherwise you will be in "ground effect" which is a bubble of air that the heli will continually try and slip off

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03-08-2006 03:45 PM  11 years agoPost 22
Tommy Z

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i think that's it!

i have been trying to hover at 3-4 inches, is that why it's so unstable?!?

-Tommy Boy

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03-08-2006 04:07 PM  11 years agoPost 23
bbeverlie

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If you want to get started correctly with out a sim you
need to go to school Radd's that is http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

It will help you allot if you stay focused and take
it one step at a time, You'll say I'm passed that battery
already....Don't be tempted to go past what it tells you
just do it page by page and you be better for it!

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03-08-2006 04:13 PM  11 years agoPost 24
Chickenx10

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sounded like me when i first started. Going without a simulator isnt just the hard way, its the stupid way. Helis always need input and are alqways driftign when your in your first flights

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03-08-2006 04:14 PM  11 years agoPost 25
TangoUniform

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I have done the RADD thing and if you stick with it, it works well! I started with the Sim, thought I could hover so I bought the Blade CP. Tried to hover and was pretty pathetic... and frustrated. Then I did the RADD program and after 3 days of sticking to it, he was right, I was up and hovering.
Only problem now is, I bought G3 and started playing around with the planes... now I'm not sure which way to go. I want a bigger airframe as I live on the eastern planes of Colorado, but plane or heli?

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03-08-2006 04:32 PM  11 years agoPost 26
Chickenx10

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its a heli forum, eveyone gonna say heli as do i

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03-08-2006 04:32 PM  11 years agoPost 27
Tioli

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How about the "Electric Helicopter Beginners Guide?" It has helped me a lot. It's a book, on-line, by T Morita. You can find him and a link to the book at http://www.rcgroups.com.

Here's another link:

http://www.tioli.biz/helicopters.htm

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03-08-2006 04:47 PM  11 years agoPost 28
TangoUniform

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its a heli forum, eveyone gonna say heli as do i
Sometimes to get the answer you want, you have to ask the right people

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03-08-2006 05:27 PM  11 years agoPost 29
Tommy Z

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thanks guys, iv'e already looked at radds flying school, i think i'll try that one for now, im also having a battery problem, my flights are only ten minutes, and it takes two hours to charge, any help there?

-Tommy Boy

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03-08-2006 05:32 PM  11 years agoPost 30
dasd

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Be more specific so we can help you. Tell us about the servos, battery, and how you charge the battery. You should be able to get 4-5 flights out of a 2400Mah NiCad.

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03-08-2006 05:56 PM  11 years agoPost 31
GMONEY

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I have always liked a challenge. keep us posted on your progress I think your experience will become very helpful for others with the same thought process. One tip for these fourms be very precise with your inquires. Heli guys are just that very precise. The more info you give up front the better answers you will recieve. Good luck with your quest..

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03-08-2006 06:56 PM  11 years agoPost 32
Tommy Z

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well its a 650Mah P 10.8 volts (that's all it says). it came with the heli, but this guy who flies planes told me to get a 3 cell 900mah 11.1 volt or something like that. here's the site for the new one im getting he said it would give me more power and flight time.

http://hobby-lobby.com/thunderpower.htm (scroll down some)

but what is "mah"? is that how long it will last?!?

and i dont know any of my electronics or anything, it all came with it.
thanks guys
-Tommy

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03-08-2006 07:16 PM  11 years agoPost 33
Chickenx10

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Mah is the compacity of the battery. 600 is a rather small battery while 2500 is large. Dependign upon the ammount of Mah your battery has you can usually determien around how many flights you will get such at 2500 you will get 7 or 8 on mine and on a 600 just like one or two to be safe

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03-08-2006 07:38 PM  11 years agoPost 34
GimbalFan (RIP)

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That sounds more like a transmitter battery to me.

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03-08-2006 09:01 PM  11 years agoPost 35
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tzenteno said
thanks guys, iv'e already looked at radds flying school, i think i'll try that one for now, im also having a battery problem, my flights are only ten minutes, and it takes two hours to charge, any help there?
Others here assumed you were talking about your transmitter battery. I assumed that you were talking about your receiver battery.

If it was your receiver batter, then a 10 minute flight out of a 600mah battery is great. If it takes you 2 hours to recharge, then you must be using the wall wart that came with the heli. You may want to get a real charger (like a Triton) that can charge quickly.

If it was your transmitter battery, then a fully charged battery should last much more than 10 minutes total. (As others have said.) I would suspect that is isn't really being fully recharged or the battery is defective.

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03-08-2006 09:17 PM  11 years agoPost 36
Tommy Z

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sorry guys

ok, i have an electric micro heli, and the battery that goes to the receiver (on the heli) lasts only 8-10 mins. i need a new battery annd charger, now can you help?

-Tommy Boy

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03-08-2006 09:23 PM  11 years agoPost 37
bbeverlie

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I think that is normal! I have a Blade CP and it came
with a 9.6volt 650mAh Ni-MH battery that lasts about
8-10 minutes and takes 2 to 2.5 hour to charge.

If you want longer flight times you will want to
go to a Li-Po battery and charger!

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03-09-2006 12:31 AM  11 years agoPost 38
Over Torque

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Here's a few things you may wan't to consider first. If you already own a computer get a sim. The sim will give you way better one on one flying lessons than this forum will. That's just my own opinion. When I hear someone say they want to learn how to fly without the aid of a sim it tells one that this person may not be very dedicated in flying and they will be a danger to themself and anyone or anything around them when they are flying. It's very wise to learn on a sim first because then you will most likely be prepaired for giving the correct stick input when something may go wrong with the heli. With a sim you can still learn on those crazy windy days, rainy days or even at night. FMS is a free sim to download. A sim got me in the air in two months and I can make the heli go anywhere that I want. My first gallon was getting use to the feel of the stick movements while hovering around and landing in several different spots. The second gallon I was flying huge circles and figure eights at 40/50 mph. Now I'm on my third gallon with no wrecks at all. I thank myself for getting a sim because it helped me learn how to auto the heli. I saved my heli(JR Venture 30)twice because I was prepaired by knowing how to go for those two auto rotations. Anyway if you've ever flown a plane then flying a heli isn't much harder,like they say. When you're turning in a fast forward flight it's only one more stick input that you have to learn and that is the rudder. Most people turn their planes with using only the ailerons and elevetor(the right stick). In fast forward flight with a heli you turn the same way using the ailerons and elevator with the correct rudder input direction to make the tail follow. It's so easy once you get it. It may be harder for some because you constantly have to use both sticks. I would recomend setting the pitch curves to -1, 5, +10. so you don't slam the heli into the ground when you get nervous. Enjoy.

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03-09-2006 12:38 AM  11 years agoPost 39
hueyman

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yes, helis in general can seem very unstable until you get used to them. micros, unless setup very, very well are prone to be less stable in flight then their larger counterparts. because you have very little airtime, it is difficult to determine wether you are describing normal heli behaviour or a real stability issue. after my first attempt, I felt "no way could anyone fly this thing". Now it's just second nature. so get a little more airtime before you start suspecting a problem with the heli. over controlling is one of the biggest problems to overcome when starting out. one thing that would probably help shorten your learning curve would be to adjust the controls so they are less sensitive to your input. with the walkera transmitter not being computerized, the only thing you can with it is lengthen the sticks - takes more thumb movement to move the sticks to their max deflection. the stick length is adjustable. on the heli, you can reposition the control rods in the servo arms and/or the control arms to "dummy down" your stick inputs until you get used to flying. Also, you are doing pretty good to get 10 minutes out of the 650mah 9 cell nimh battery. go with at least a 3s 1800 mah and no bigger than a 3s 2200 mah when you go lipo. good luck and keep at it.

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03-09-2006 01:08 AM  11 years agoPost 40
Tommy Z

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thanks guys

1st off, i guess im going to get a simulator, i dont want to be looked down upon if you know what i mean.

2nd, i had my 3rd flight today!! i did way better. im just pissed about the battery flight time. anyway, rudder control is getting easier to me, im having a lot of trouble w/ cyclic though. and even though rudder is easy, i still get easily dissoriented.

im going to download FMS, and my radio plugs into the computer, but i dont know how to install the radio as the controller.
does anyone know how to get that set up???????
-Tommy

-Tommy Boy

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