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12-01-2005 10:36 AM  12 years agoPost 1
ShempHoward

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The other day a friend shows up at the field with his new Futaba 14mz. He opens up the back and shows me the battery which is a Sony battery thats about $35. The Futaba replacement Tx battery is $78.

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12-01-2005 02:40 PM  12 years agoPost 2
RCfan

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Sony NP-F570 is what you're referring to ...

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12-01-2005 03:16 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Phaedrus

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I have one of the Sony's. Been using it since March 05. Seems to last every bit as long as the Futaba, which HAS to be mad in the same factory.

Plus the Futaba pack is now $89 at Tower!!

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12-01-2005 03:36 PM  12 years agoPost 4
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Using a different battery voids warranty. Of course you can be dishonest and tell them that you have been using FUTABA battery and you don't know why it blew up the $2200 TX.

Don't be complaining if something goes wrong with your under the warranty $2200 TX weither battery related or not and Futaba finds out that you used warranty voiding parts that is clearly stated in the manual.

I'm pretty sure the FUTABA engineers has tested their FUTABA battery for that FUTABA charger and not SONY. And I'm pretty sure that SONY battery also states that you only use that battery on that specific SONY application where they have tested under rigourous SONY specific product condition.

IMO, if you are going to buy an extra battery for a $2200 TX, I'd buy what the manufacturers says and not save $30-40. HOw many of these batteries do you need that saving 30 bucks would justify a probability of ruining a $2200 TX and you would have no say on WHY the TX malfunctioned in any way because you wanted to save that relatively miniscule amount?.

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12-01-2005 03:47 PM  12 years agoPost 5
RCfan

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Dude, it's a battery!

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12-01-2005 03:48 PM  12 years agoPost 6
ScareCrow_Delta

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Warranty voiding battery that is.

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12-01-2005 03:53 PM  12 years agoPost 7
RCfan

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... but it's still a battery!!!!! Unless the Futaba puts out a different kind of electrons , they all work pretty much the same way.

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12-01-2005 03:59 PM  12 years agoPost 8
ScareCrow_Delta

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The electrons will flow the same way it's been since the beggining of time. That's not the point. The point is, it will VOID the warranty.

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12-01-2005 08:43 PM  12 years agoPost 9
Rafael23cc

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Why are we arguing about an $80 battery when the whole system is $2200.

If the battery was worth more than 10% of the cost of the equpment then It _might_ be worth the argument.

I've had radios with batteries that last well over 5 years. Why do you need a replacement for such a recent radio?

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12-01-2005 08:54 PM  12 years agoPost 10
Phaedrus

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Not a replacement, but an extra for long days at the field. The stock battery only lasts for 2 to 2.5 hours. It is a lithium and can only be charged at a 1C rate max. The Futaba AC charger does 1.5 amps, or about an hour and a half to fully recharge. In fact it takes a bit longer in my experience. And it is not always the case that you have AC at the field to power the charger. Hence many of us want a second or third pack for long weekends, contests, etc.

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12-01-2005 08:58 PM  12 years agoPost 11
Rafael23cc

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Ok, not replacement.

But why argue about it?

if you paid the $$$ for the radio, you _should_ be able to pay the $$$ for the battery. If not you went over your head spending your hard earned $$$$.

That is why I do not have a 14MZ, and I am sure there are a lot of people that think just like I do out there. I love my JR radios.

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12-01-2005 09:20 PM  12 years agoPost 12
RCfan

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Rafael, only one arguing here is YOU. Someone made a comment about alternative batteries that work on the 14MZ. The was provided. The issue about voiding warranty came up (legitimate). What folks do with this information is up to them. Obvisously you missed all the , and .

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12-01-2005 10:04 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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I seriously doubt that the Futaba 14MZ Tx battery is proprietary to the 14MZ.
The Futaba people probably put the battery out for bid and whom ever makes the Sony battery, if it is not made by Sony, got the bid. My friend explained the specs on both were identical. Of course Futaba wants all their 14MZ users to use their battery and not the cheaper but equal alternative but we can all guess why their warranty includes their battery. If I owned a 14MZ I would buy the Sony as a back up without hesitation that it would harm the Tx in any way.

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12-01-2005 10:07 PM  12 years agoPost 14
rkeith2

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Battery

I thought the Futaba Batt had a little more MAH than the Sony.

I have 2 Futabas and 3 Sony;s and they all work well and for the same on air time


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12-01-2005 10:18 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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RCfan I like your comment.

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12-01-2005 10:23 PM  12 years agoPost 16
Phaedrus

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Nope. Both are 2,200 mAh packs. As I have been saying, even the CHARGERS are the same.

Sony charger:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...oductSKU=BCV615

Futaba charger:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXJUW3&P=0

Except the Sony is $60 while Tower wants $110.

Batteries:

Sony:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...oductSKU=NPF570

Futaba:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXJYN9&P=0

Futaba is $90 while the Sony brand is $60 retail and can be gotten for $35 or so from discount places.

And in response to the argument that if you can afford the radio the pack price should not matter - using that logic we should NEVER see posts asking where to get the best price on anything, right?/ If you can afford to fly helis you can afford to pay retail. Why try to save a buck or two on parts??

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12-01-2005 10:41 PM  12 years agoPost 17
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Phaedrus
I couldn't have said it better myself!!!

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12-01-2005 10:47 PM  12 years agoPost 18
ShempHoward

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This is just another example of how those of us in the Hobby who fly Planes and/or Helis sometimes get robbed buying Hobby items available elsewhere
outside the Hobby for less $$.

I wonder who first spotted this Sony alternative battery deal for the 14MZ?
Great detective work.

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12-01-2005 10:49 PM  12 years agoPost 19
Phaedrus

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What's really interesting is that if you don't mind the pack sticking out the back of your TX you could use the Sony NP-F770 (4400 mAh) or NP-F970 (6600 mAh) packs. They are identical to the stock pack, but are taller. You would have to take the battery cover off the TX to do this, but if you needed the run time for some reason, this is the way to do it. I get a hair over 2 hours on 2200 packs, so 6600 wold give you around 6 hours!!

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12-01-2005 10:56 PM  12 years agoPost 20
spritefiend

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its a li-ion right? 2200mah and you guys are burning through them within a day?

i agree with the warranty aspect of the 14mz and using an "aftermarket" battery, because if something does go wrong with the battery and they find you werent using theirs, im almost positive it would void the warranty and i wouldnt want to be out any part of $2200.

realistically its a very slim chance, but while your still COVERED by the warranty i would flip for the $80 and sleep peacefully knowing that i would be covered incase anything went wrong with factory supplied protected against manufacturer defect and craftsmanship.

Im currently using duralite's in my stylus, wether or not its covered by the warranty or not i think its worth a 400$ loss off a $100 pack. $2200 loss over saving $40, im afraid not.

edit: actually i guess its more like a $2000 radio, price has come down ive seen.

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