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11-30-2005 04:18 PM  12 years agoPost 1
alcastan

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San Luis Potosi, Mexico

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Hi, asking for help, I´ve been flying my tiger for the past weeks, I have all my servos at 90 with 1/2 stick, 0 pitch at middle, -11 at down stick, and 11 at hi stick, so it hovers at 3/4, symetrical as the manual states, Here are my quesitions:

a) if I change my pitch curve so it hovers at middle stick, all servos obviously become not 90, would this be a problem?

b) I find harder for a begginer to hover at 3/4 of stick,(less room of error) well for me it has been harder, would it be wise to change to 1/2 stick for learning the basics and then changing again to 3/4?

Thank you!!

Alejandro,

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11-30-2005 04:35 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Wicked3d

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In my honest opinion if you plan on flying any form of 3d or try and get setup help from anyone at your flying field, setting it up to hover at half stick would casue you to have a longer learning curve for one. Second you would be getting grief from all of the other pilots trying to get you to set it up at 3/4 and most likley you will end up setitng it back up at 3/4. If your intentions are to fly FAI or possible just want to fly a scale Ship then you may consider it but remember this machine is designed to fly at 3/4 stick hover and is a 3d machine at heart. Stick with the 3/4 hover you can always dial down your negative pitch to be alot less with your radio if your worried about slamming full negative pitch in a emergancy. This is just my thoughts on the matter. I learen flying +10 as my max pitch, 3/4 hover but i think my full negative was 3 or 4 degres so i had enough negative to shoot autos in case of a emergancy. That didnt last long and I set up a full 3d curve and never looked back becasue my end goal was to fly 3D and I figured that flying the setup i always was going to fly was the best practice for my fingers. All in all if you decided not to learn with the 3d curve you will have to retrain your fingers to work differntly and casue you to have a longer learning curve.
Just my 2 cents.

Wicked

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11-30-2005 05:11 PM  12 years agoPost 3
hootowl

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Do this with pitch curve?

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11-30-2005 05:51 PM  12 years agoPost 4
alcastan

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if not how?
I would like some help!

Alejandro,

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11-30-2005 06:02 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Al Magaloff

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I'm with Wicked on this one. I've set many beginners up with 3/4 hover right off the bat. The "secret" to success is having the initial curve something like +1 at low stick, +1 in the middle, +5 at 3/4 stick, and maybe +7 at full stick. This rolls the sensitivity off the pitch curve, and allows those first days hovering, to be more in control, less over control. Then, as the student cfatches up to the machine, as opposed to being behind all the time, we slowly add the pitch back into the curve. The next step would be 0* or -1 at low stick, + 9 at full stick.

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11-30-2005 10:16 PM  12 years agoPost 6
darkfa8

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Brick, NJ - USA

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I started flying at 1/2-stick hover on a Hawk Sport and had a pitch range of +9 to -2 for starters. The 1/2-stick hovering gives you a more gradual pitch range from hover to full pitch, more resolution. Whereas with the 3/4 there is less resolution.

If you're going to fly 3/4, then you set all servo arms at 90* at mid-stick, and you set 0* at mid-stick, this makes your max pitch range linear on either side of 0*.

If you're going to fly 1/2 stick hover, then you'd usually set all your arms at 90* at half stick, set your hover pitch at half-stick mechanically on the machine (mid point on pitch curve should be at 50%), (5*-6* is usually a good hover pitch) and then set your lower limit in your pitch curve.

I anticipated wanting to do switchless inverted and 3D stuff, so I switched to 3/4-hover and forced myself to adapt. All in all, it's not so bad after you try it for a while. You'll have a smaller window of physical stick movement in order to correct for wind, but either way, do what feels comfortable to you.

Anyone who flyes 3/4 hover should easily be able to fly a 1/2 hover and help someone out.

- Dan Goldstein
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11-30-2005 10:22 PM  12 years agoPost 7
hootowl

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Looks like I did mine 3/4 hover without knowing any better. I did the symetrical thing.

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12-02-2005 09:51 PM  12 years agoPost 8
flyingquisinart

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Detroit Area

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I set up my other heli, a Raptor 30 v1, up symetrical mechanically (half stick = 0 degrees pitch, 90 degree servos, etc). Then I adjusted the pitch and throttle curves to be about 5 degrees (hover) pitch at about 2/3 stick in normal mode, 0 degrees at 1/2 stick in idle up.

For me it was just a compromise between the 1/2 stick vs 3/4 stick hover, as I felt I couldn't hold a nice easy hover at 3/4 stick in normal. Also it made for less jumping/dropping between normal and idle up.

I haven't had the time to my Tiger put together yet, not to mention the cold weather.

must have been a downdraft

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