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11-29-2005 04:51 PM  12 years agoPost 1
GroundPounder

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Wow, after exclusively flying my Rexxie for the last two months, almost everyday, I fired up the Raptor.
The wind was a bit blustery in my backyard, but I had a NEED.

First thing that that caught my attention, was the HUGE rotor disk! Seemed like it filled up the whole place:-)
Second was the awesome stability, I mean, this thing was like on rails.
Third was the power stored in the rotor disk, a gust would push it down, and I only would have to add the smallest of corrections.

Did almost a tank of slow fig 8's.

Then took out the Rexxie, man, it was all over the place, couldn't maintain height, the wind would push it this way and that, wasn't a pleasure at all.

Bigger is better :-)

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11-29-2005 05:00 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Brett Horton

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Fly a big AP gasser ship with 800's, then you will see stability!!

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11-30-2005 01:17 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Dr. Fibinotchi

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well...

they are but less wind is much more fun....


-Cody

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11-30-2005 09:20 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Stickyfingers

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Theres no doubt that the micros are harder to fly.

The owners of bigger nitro birds can knock them all they like but a Trex flown well can only be done by a darn good pilot


Raptor 50 v2 stretch on 680's, Trex 450XL eCCPMjklxyzzzz

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11-30-2005 09:37 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Al Magaloff

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ALL machines have a place, and they ALL have a particular area where one excells above another. Fly the AP gasser in your great room, or the Raptor. Ethinger.... . We're not going to hate you, we're just never going to take you seriously. Full scale aircraft : Fly and land a Boeing 747 in 40-50 mph wind. No real problem there. Now fly an Extra. Ok, now do a hammerhead with the 747.

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11-30-2005 09:43 AM  12 years agoPost 6
SPB

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Hate saying this but I have the TRex since August and the very few times that had all its pieces intact I never enjoyed the flight as with my 50 and 90.
I believe that I should have invested the money I spend for the Trex in a second 50 since I had the servos and the gyro available.


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11-30-2005 09:47 AM  12 years agoPost 7
Al Magaloff

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Agree, you can easily spend more than $1000 to get a good flying machine.

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11-30-2005 09:54 AM  12 years agoPost 8
Stickyfingers

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I have both too, and must admit I would rather have put the Trex money (prob around £400 or $700usd) towards a secondhand Rap 90. I guess we all make mistakes.

As much as I like the Trex it's a lot of money. And of course I'm extremely angry that Align made a boo-boo on their chargers and so I now have 3 dying lipos and a dodgy charger. That'll be another $225usd to replace them. Great.


Raptor 50 v2 stretch on 680's, Trex 450XL eCCPMjklxyzzzz

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11-30-2005 09:57 AM  12 years agoPost 9
pistole

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.
the other day at my local hobby store , I tried to hover an electric
Venom Night Ranger (the one with fixed pitch) and totally failed.

I think I will stick to my nitros ..... thank you.
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Rap70. TT70.Rap50. TT50.RD8000.

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11-30-2005 12:29 PM  12 years agoPost 10
nojohnny101

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hey
IMO micros are hard to fly
it helped me to start out with a larger bird (nitro) and then get an electric....i don't think it is hard at all....
whatever mod u do to it, i will never fly like a big bird...
that's casue it isn't

Thanks
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11-30-2005 02:13 PM  12 years agoPost 11
SPB

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Micro and mini helicopters will never substitute a nitro heli not even a 30. They are just convenient when you are going vacations and you can easily carry with you a small electric like the TRex together with your TX and fly during your holidays.

Personally I only bought two Lipos and I am happy with that. I am not gonna spend more money in this little $hit. I have already regret it that I bought it. And as I promised to myself this is the last time that I am rebuilding it. Next time I will keep the 401 and the 7ch PCM JR RX and the rest will meet the junkyard and I will buy one more Raptor 50 to trash around. At least when I am crashing my Raptors is always doing funnels, death spirals, or piroflips and not doing simple rolls and flips


Sotiris
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11-30-2005 05:33 PM  12 years agoPost 12
GroundPounder

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Hey, don't get me wrong, I love my Rexxie and my Rappy, but flying the Rappy in the living room........ :-)

The Rexxie is stock standard, bottom line, cheapest servos, gyro etc, yet it flew "out of the box"
This is my third little electric, and the first one that actually flies, well, that I can fly.
So Sortiris, I think you might have set up yours incorrectly !

It will however, NEVER replace my Raptors.
Rappies are the best!

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11-30-2005 05:53 PM  12 years agoPost 13
Drunk Monk

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I jsut got me a t-rex and once I stop the tail for messing around I'm sure it'll be fun to fly, but it sure as hell won't replace my rappies


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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12-01-2005 03:34 AM  12 years agoPost 14
OICU812

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I can tell you what I fly both, I learned on a micro was the hardsest thing ever to do as well. But it really paid off, first nitro I threw in the air was a pice of cake. I fly my micros wind and weather permitting before I fly my nitros it really calms me and josens me to do more on my nitros as everything seems to be in slow motion after flying a micro.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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12-01-2005 04:34 AM  12 years agoPost 15
jschenck

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learned on an electric

I told myself I would not buy my raptor until I could fly my Eflite BCP FFF around the field. I broke the BCP many times. funny, I didn't wreck it much learning to hover, just when I started to get comfortable then "tried stuff"

I'm on my 2nd gallon on my R50. I'm just starting to get used to flips. Nose in make me a bit nervous, but I can do it. I did wreck it once because I spent too much time nose in and got backwards when I flipped the tail around to check fuel. That's why I fly wood blades. There is no way I could have done this without a few months on the electrics. Never touched a simulator.

I'd say the electrics provided me with a hugh jump in my learning curve - cost/pucker factor is way lower. having said that, the only great flying electrics I've seen are $1000 T-Rex or Shoguns. I'd rather have another 50 sized bird.

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12-01-2005 08:57 AM  12 years agoPost 16
Birds

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My thoughts

Started the whole heli hobby with the T-rex.
With ample setup information on trextuning and runryder, the Trex flew pretty well out of the box i must say!

Trex is best flown with low wind levels... as I spend my time flying in open fields, its not hard to imagine the effort I put in just to hover this baby!

Finally, couldn't resist the temptation to get a Raptor 50 after seeing how well it handles the wind.

Wow! What a difference. I was taken back by the stability of the Raptor 50 in the maiden flight and subsequently gave me the confidence to try other maneuvers such as flips, rolls, loops and even inverted hovering! I even tried my first auto on it!

When I notice that the Trex was starting to gather dust, I sold the T-rex to fund fuel costs for the Raptor... haha

Well, the T-rex gave me the strong foundation and stick time to master hovering and FF. Beyond that, you can't go wrong with a bigger bird!

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12-01-2005 10:53 AM  12 years agoPost 17
Al Magaloff

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Al,i started with micros
That's why we never recommend you learn with a micro. But Groundpounder is a bit beyond learning, and his original post compares the outside, in the wind, flying qualities of two different machines. That's what this thread is about.

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12-01-2005 03:30 PM  12 years agoPost 18
RevGadget

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My 2 cents

I spent enough money on the micros to have bought 3 R50 SE's.

I learned to fly with micros, and I crashed a lot due to glitching. On top of the 4 micros I owned, the additional Trex XL HDE I bought was a lemon out the box. Everyone esle had success with them, or not. So I switched to a R30 and loved it. Converted it to a 50, AWESOME. No more crashing due to glitches!

Micros have their place in my house, hanging from the ceiling.

If I go elec again, it will be with a nitro - elec coversion.


3D2me= One eye on the Tx, one on the Heli and my thumbs in between.

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12-01-2005 06:16 PM  12 years agoPost 19
MrMel

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Ive been flying the T-Rex for a year now, built over 12 of them (crashes, own mods, for friends etc)

Just today I finished the build of a Raptor 50 SE, I will make it a E-Raptor. Havent flown it yet, waiting for the new ORK motor.

But I Loooove the size of the thing

I must say the build process is a dream compared to the lower quality micro's, they have improved (at least on the T-Rex since the CDE/HDE) but still, its much more better on the raptor.

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12-01-2005 11:26 PM  12 years agoPost 20
Al Magaloff

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What's the world coming to, when someone says the Raptor is "quality" ?

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