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11-28-2005 03:47 PM  12 years agoPost 1
phatboy

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Hi guys, Just got a Vario gasser and would like to hear some openions on which motor to put in it. I have heard that the 260 vibrates more than the 230, is this true? Is the improved power worth a little more vibration? Thanks in advance for your help!!

Brian

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11-28-2005 03:53 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Christopher J

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I was speaking to Joe a few days ago about this exact question. He said the newer 260's don't have the same problems and some of the older 26 size gas motors.

I like the 230 myself as it puts out great power with plenty in reserve.

Christopher J
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11-28-2005 08:37 PM  12 years agoPost 3
erichevy

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Hi Brian,
What are your plans with this heli? (flying scale?)
The Zenoah 230 has plenty of power. And will run smoooth.
Experiences from people on runryder, made me choose for the 230.
I'd flown with a Zenoah G22 and changed it for a G231, which I bought at Rick's helicopters. (http://www.rcheli.com)
Eric.

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11-28-2005 09:11 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Chris Bergen

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You are aware that you need the RC version of the motor for the Vario?

Just checking.

Chris D. Bergen

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11-28-2005 10:50 PM  12 years agoPost 5
phatboy

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Eric: I will be flying pod and boom for a while, but have the large Vario Jet Ranger III that I will be building and using these mechanics, I also live at over 5000 ft. so in general if there is no drawback to getting a larger motor I would probably opt for the 260 as it seems that the cost between the 2 is minimal.

Chris: Yes I was aware that I need the RC version, thanks!!!

Thanks guys I really appreciate the input..

Sincerely, Brian

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11-28-2005 11:25 PM  12 years agoPost 6
erichevy

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OK Brain, all seems logic but,....
Wait what's to be said about SMOOTH running 26 cc Zenoah's.
I'll get the feeling you're better off with a 230.
BTW I have an Vario Jetranger 3 laying around to build for a friend of mine. I've got to fix the tail drive which was busted. And check all over because it has never flown.
He likes buying all kinds of heli's and gives them to me to build and/or set them up correct and test-fly them.
Eric.

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11-28-2005 11:31 PM  12 years agoPost 7
phatboy

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Is the 230 smoother than the 260?? I do not know that is why I have asked others, maybe there is someone out there who has boath and can make an unbiased comparrison..

Brian

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11-28-2005 11:43 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Jim Cimino

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I think the 23 is smoother than the 25. I had a 23 on my X-Cell gasser and have a 26 on my Spectra. The 26 is not as smooth but has a lot of power.
Jim

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11-29-2005 12:29 AM  12 years agoPost 9
Phil_Mart

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I can only go with what others have said in the past, and that is that the 230 is the smother of the two. As for power, your concern over putting it into the jet-ranger fuse is unfounded, this engine has shed loads of power. Check out Vario's web site, they even put this engine into their BIG Lama

Philip Martin.

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11-29-2005 01:14 AM  12 years agoPost 10
cquinby

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Brian,

For what it is worth I recently converted my 230 to the 260 and am tickeled pink with it. I have NO vibration while flying and is a great running engine. I think most vibration that is noted has to do with a Blade tracking issue. The wide cord blades of the Benzin are very difficult to get in line. The cord makes it almost impossible to see the track and I found this out the hard way. I always had a vibration in my Huey and once I started messing with one blade I got it smooth as silk while in the air.

Don't let the 260 dicourage you. I think you will be very pleased with it's power and it's ease of use...

Here is some video if you would like to see it in action.

Huey Video 20mb

Hope that helps!

Hauling 45 cases of Coors to the fire crew!

Chris

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11-29-2005 01:44 AM  12 years agoPost 11
phatboy

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Chris: Thanks man!! That ROCKS!!!

Brian

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11-29-2005 04:07 AM  12 years agoPost 12
VAN

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For what it is worth I recently converted my 260RC to 290RC, I have NO vibration and is great running engine. I think most vibration that is noted has to do with the carb setup/RPM and neddles.

AIRSTAR GASSER/G290, VERTOL 46, os 50.DNHP 90-SR3, TT90, MS710.Airwolf 60, Hawk IV, os50, 600mm

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11-29-2005 04:36 AM  12 years agoPost 13
Billme

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Don't forget that full circle crank, it does wonders....
On just about every problem I have corrected for folks, it has been setup... They are always astounded by how much a milimeter makes such a big difference..
Bill

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11-30-2005 01:28 PM  12 years agoPost 14
Swing_racer

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Singapore

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I was told that G231 is more powerful than G230 and is more suitable for 3D flying.

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11-30-2005 03:49 PM  12 years agoPost 15
erichevy

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That's right Swing racer,
The G231 is a newer version which has 4 ports instead of two.
More power, and not ONLY suitable for 3D.
Don't know if it's available in a RC version and matches the Vario mechanics..
Chris, maybe you can anwer this?
Eric.

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11-30-2005 05:38 PM  12 years agoPost 16
Chris Bergen

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The G231PUH is a lot more powerful than the G230PUH

I would say that the RC230 and the G231 are comparable in power, with the RC230 being smoother with the full circle crank.

The RC230 was available before the G231, which is actually a development of the RC230. We had tested a beta of this engine which Zenoah had put together using a G23 crankcase modified to accept the RC230 cylinder head, piston, ring.

Unfortunately we had to return the test engine, but not 'til after seeing what an increase in power was available with this engine in the Intrepid Gasser.

Obviously there are physical differences between the RC version and the PUH version negating the ability to swap between the two engines in the same aircraft.

Hope this helps,

Chris D. Bergen

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