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11-29-2005 10:42 PM  12 years agoPost 21
TheLost

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So with the part# facing out, I should reverse polarity of the wires, right?
To answer your question... maybe.. it depends... .

The main blades spin Clockwise (i think ).. so the tail needs to push counter clockwise.

Depending on how you mounted the motor you may need to switch the motor wires around.. Once you've got the motor 'pushing' in the right direction you need to make sure the props are on the correct way.

~Brian

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11-29-2005 10:43 PM  12 years agoPost 22
TheLost

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Oh... you figured it out.. never mind

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11-29-2005 11:31 PM  12 years agoPost 23
Mondell

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Definately do the dd tail mod it will make your life a lot easier.

Thanks, Mondell

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11-30-2005 01:01 AM  12 years agoPost 24
1LO64

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Can somebody sum up how the DD mod works? Is it REALLY worth getting????

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11-30-2005 02:41 AM  12 years agoPost 25
stealth916

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Here is an old post of mine about it - my feeling about it still stand:

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t203641p1/?highlight=dd

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11-30-2005 02:40 PM  12 years agoPost 26
1LO64

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Thanks for the link but I read that whole topic before posting my last reply. Anybody else have comments on this??

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11-30-2005 03:45 PM  12 years agoPost 27
stealth916

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It's $20 - how much more social reinforcment do you need to cut loose with that?

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11-30-2005 04:09 PM  12 years agoPost 28
TheLost

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LOL...
Can somebody sum up how the DD mod works? I
Simple answer: The tail can react faster.

~Brian

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11-30-2005 06:22 PM  12 years agoPost 29
Bill8Bud

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For the 20 bucks you spend you will not regret this mod. It really made the heli much easier to fly.

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11-30-2005 07:15 PM  12 years agoPost 30
Bryan R

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for 20 bucks its a good upgrade and i have been running mine for 4 months now and it hasent burned out yet

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12-01-2005 07:19 AM  12 years agoPost 31
FastLaneAK

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Which is better?? Using the GWS mount or going with the stock mount and modifying it?? I am a little confused about tractor mode. I was under the understanding that the motor would last longer in a modified stock mount than reversing it and running it in a GWS mount. Any comments???

Lane

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12-01-2005 05:37 PM  12 years agoPost 32
L0stS0ul

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hmm, Well it's really heat that you are fighting with these motors so I would think running in tractor mode and having the blade push air over the motor would help with cooling. I'm running in tractor mode and it's working great for me. I have the heat sink on as well but every time I've brought the heli in I've checked the temp of the motor and it's always quite low. Barely warm to the touch. I could probably even do without the heat sink.

I am running on a 3cell lipo

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12-01-2005 05:55 PM  12 years agoPost 33
Bryan R

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run it in the stock mount and put a heatsink on it

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12-01-2005 06:20 PM  12 years agoPost 34
L0stS0ul

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Virgina - USA

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The fin on the GWS mount helps with forward flight

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12-01-2005 06:49 PM  12 years agoPost 35
TheLost

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The fin on the GWS mount helps with forward flight
And it looks cool

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12-01-2005 07:42 PM  12 years agoPost 36
FastLaneAK

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This fin fits on the tail boom and has a nice foot on it as well. It is $1.75 from tower. LXHHC9

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXHHC9&P=Z

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12-01-2005 09:11 PM  12 years agoPost 37
Riverman

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Hello

Personally, I think running the stock mount is the best alternative in terms of function over form. All of these other vertical fins and mounts add weight. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of them weigh as little as the stock mount and strut. Using the stock setup and a 4530 prop I am able to trim a little legnth off the bottom of the vertical anti strike strut and thereby allow a slight nose up attitude while still on the skids (practical for many situations). Running a 3x2 prop allows for an even shorter strut and a more scale appearance.
Anyway, this is the most cost effective upgrade available for the Blade CP and I don't think anyone who has done it correctly would ever go back. The icing on the cake is that along with drastically improving flight characteristics, it also becomes cheaper to replace the tail motor when necessary and the replacement interval will be much greater.
What I can't figure out is why Horizon didn't do this to begin with?!

Just my two cents. Regards

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12-01-2005 09:27 PM  12 years agoPost 38
JeepCJ

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Pennellville NY (Syracuse Heli Group)

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DD tail mod

I would think that the tail would work better in the stock form (pusher) I was thinking that the tractor would work better because of biting clean air. But after looking at it. There is no way to get the tail rotor to spin up into the main blade wash. You would have to have a prop on back that has reverse pitch to one from GWS. I would think on the stock side, with the tail rotor turning up into the main rotor wash would give you better control. any thoughts on that?

Bob

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12-01-2005 09:49 PM  12 years agoPost 39
Riverman

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Hi JeepCJ
I think you're thinking about this too much
I hadn't really even thought of the effect of main rotor wash on tail rotor efficiency. Isn't the tail rotor pretty much clear of the immediate main rotor wash?
All I can tell you is that even mounted in a pusher config with rotating with the downwash there is still an abundance of tail authority.

Regards

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12-01-2005 10:00 PM  12 years agoPost 40
futuramille

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SC USA

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I ditto Riverman....wow this GWS upgrade in tractor mode is awesome. Adding the GY240 and having enough tail authority to make it effective....Its a different flying machine.

Oh, BTW, I did the whole GWS DD tail upgrade, fins and all, added the weight of the gy240 on top of it. TP1320 lipo (84 grams).....no weight issues. All I know is its allot more stable in flight. I didn't even have to adjust trim for pitch. it still hovers at the same spot on the stick and I have plenty of power to stop drops and climb out.....

No complaints from me.



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.....I need more batteries!!!

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