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12-03-2005 03:39 PM  12 years agoPost 21
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Tom,
Did you manage to download the spinning Hummer movie, I did not get time to test it?
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12-03-2005 06:10 PM  12 years agoPost 22
slider46

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Yes I did get it, I had to fix the link to watch it...Looks like you have it dialed in nicely. Are you using the gyro and radio that came with it? Mine likes to wander until I get it about 4' off the ground then it gets stable. I really need to find a gym to fly in this winter....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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12-03-2005 07:54 PM  12 years agoPost 23
Rogersresort

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Skeeter pilot
You boys across the pond are good! Thanks for sharing the video. I'm happy your having success with the 5-in-1. Unless I went brushless I like the 4-in-1 or 5-in-1's. Having an empty room with wood floors is priceless.

Arnie

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12-04-2005 12:07 PM  12 years agoPost 24
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Slider,
Yes. In the video I had the standard 5 in 1 unit fitted and I use the standard Elite 4 radio. Some kits come with the Lighting radio which is no where near as good.
Helicopters to not fly well when they are lightly in contact with the ground, they are also harder to hover in ground effect which is upto a height of one main rotor diameter, to hover a inch of the ground is harder that 10 feet.

Rogersresort,
You are right, slippery floors prevent the majority of tipp overs, so you don't have to keep resseting the blades.

Another link to a short movie:http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/hummer/Hummer.wmv
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12-06-2005 12:45 AM  12 years agoPost 25
garage_flyer

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I knew I saw the spinning tail video some where. This $100 2S lipo toy does it just as good

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/media/EK012-CoCoLama.wmv

Oh, and the hand catch! Enjoy

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12-07-2005 12:22 AM  12 years agoPost 26
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Chalk & Cheese

You said it............. "This toy does it just as good", it's the "TOY" doing the work not the pilot.

Like comparing an Apache with a Skeeter, the Apache flys itself but if you even think of takeing you hands of the Skeeters controls, she's off.

Happy landings.
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12-07-2005 02:00 AM  12 years agoPost 27
garage_flyer

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Woooooooooooooow. That Skeeter is truly something. Your work is truly admirable. But beyond that, the Hummingbird is not a historical aircraft, and it is more expensive than that "toy". So should the Skeeter be the toy and Apache be the model in your analogy? I still don't quite follow.

Off topic. About the Skeeters. I saw the pictures showing 3-4 of them lining up. All my readings tell me there is only one that's air worthy. So is there only 1 out of 3 that's flying? Are you guys restoring the rest of them as well? How old is the one you are flying? How often do you fly it? Can regular heli pilot fly it (say a Apache pilot) or only the bravest? Are the controls any different from the conventional helis of today?

Thanks

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12-07-2005 02:17 AM  12 years agoPost 28
cudaboy_71

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chalk and cheese...lol. i havent heard that expression in years.

you boys on the other side of the pond sher du tawk funney.

nice flyin' btw.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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12-08-2005 01:59 AM  12 years agoPost 29
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g_f,
I meant the toy is the Lama which virtually flies itself in comparison with the Hummer that is no where near as stable and requires a good ( ) pilot to make it perform well.

Skeeter answers
I used to fly all four, now there is only one airworthy Skeeter flying in the world. At the moment we are just flying the one but who knows what the future may hold, thing is vintage helicopters are an expensive and time consuming business.
The one I fly was built in 1958 by Saunders-Roe and was delivered to the British Army Air Corps (Middle Wallop) in Feb 1959. It served in the UK and Germany although other Skeeters were flown in France and Canada. It was the first helicopter to serve with the AAC and is wholy British designed and built.
I fly it about 15 hours a year, that is a very delicious 15 hours, that probably equates to 200hours in a Robinson (in enjoyment terms).
It's not a case of being brave, although many military pilots that fly the modern stuff shudder when they see the wood and fabric main rotor blades and the 7 Litre 4Cylinder deHavilland Gypsy Major engine. The problem an Apache pilot would have (if he had only ever flown gas turbine) is the fact that the Skeeter has a throttle which needs twisting (the Apache is automatic - just pull and squirt), the Apache will hover hands off, the Skeeter will not, the apache has more power than you could dream of whereas the Skeeter is underpowered, you can soon overpitch in hot weather with two people on board, in fact last summer I had to chuck Bell Bloke out so I could get over my garden hedge, I picked him up on the other side where there were no obstacles and we could make a cushion creep transition in ground effect until we got translational lift. Seat of the pants stuff but great fun. The Controls are identical to a modern piston engine helicopter.

Hope I have not bored you too much!

Got these unique photos the other week showing the Army's first and their current. Even got a sit in it.
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/01.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/02.jpg


All the best,
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12-08-2005 02:11 AM  12 years agoPost 30
garage_flyer

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Now I understand why you are so worry about Hummingbird being under powered on 2S packs .

Very interesting reading. Keep them coming

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12-08-2005 02:23 AM  12 years agoPost 31
cudaboy_71

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yike! i dont think i'd fit in either one of those

thanks for the pictures though. nice looking little bird.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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12-08-2005 02:37 AM  12 years agoPost 32
slider46

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Sounds like the skeeter is just another word for hummer v3. I like that little bird but I bet it was scary to fly.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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12-08-2005 09:53 PM  12 years agoPost 33
joeskeeter

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Skeeter, please share a video of you flying that old heli!!

As far as the little bird goes, I'm still
amazed by the hummingbird fp.
Another thing I was observing is the servo action.
I always see alot of posts about the cheaper servos
not comparing favorably to more expensive
Futabas, JR's etc.
But, the servo action on the hummingbird is really
quite good.
Maybe it's me and I'm not noticing
much difference between my big one
with the Futaba 9202's vs the hummingbird.

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12-08-2005 10:32 PM  12 years agoPost 34
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Just home gents after 8hrs. driving. I'll post video, pics and answers in the next day or so.
All the best,
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12-11-2005 12:15 AM  12 years agoPost 35
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garage_flyer,
Exactly, I have this thing about getting out of ground effect.

cudaboy_71
The Skeeter's cockpit size is very deceptive, there's bags more room than an R22.


slider46,
It's not really scary, is just a case of what you are used to. I feel very at home in the Skeeter, it's surprisingly comfortable and autos beautifully (about 1800 feet/minute), although you only get one hit at the bottom unlike a 47 where you can land after an engine-off, lift, turn 180 and put it down again.....now that's inertia.

JoelStolarski,
With regard to those servos - Probably the more expensive are better servos and likely to be quicker too but at the time of filming my Hummer it had the standard servos which as you see are fine. A while after the lateral cyclic servo failed so I replaced it with a spare I had for my old version 2, that servo is still on there today. The standard V3 servos have the 3 cores of the cable braided whereas the old V2 servo has the conventional flat cable which is also a slightly thicker gauge, whether there is any difference I do not know. Last week my other V3 servo got very slow so I replaced it with a standard Protech B-205 which I had spare for my Zoom, I had to shave some lugs off for it to fit but it works very well.

At the time of the vide I was using the Elite 4 radio that came with it which is exceptionally good considering its not expensive. I've switched over to my Futaba T9CP Super, It's even better as I can get more servo travel and the tail is even more responsive.

Some more pics of my favorite heli:
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/03.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/04.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/05.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/06.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/07.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~sarrac/skeet/08.jpg

Will sort some movie soon.
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12-14-2005 03:47 PM  12 years agoPost 36
joeskeeter

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Awesome pics!!

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12-14-2005 08:58 PM  12 years agoPost 37
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Thank you. I feel it's worth the effort.
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12-14-2005 09:03 PM  12 years agoPost 38
garage_flyer

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Maybe we should talk to Slider46 and change the topic to "Skeeter". Other than the Chalk and Cheese there is no mentioning of HB V3 on this whole page.

But at least keep this topic going, it has been very interesting.

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12-14-2005 09:42 PM  12 years agoPost 39
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Apologies garage_flyer.

leslie,
You said you run the lightening brushless motor on you HB FP Elite, what tail motor do you use and what ESC's, mixer, giro, r/x do you use, I take it you can't use the 5 in 1 unit?
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12-28-2005 12:45 AM  11 years agoPost 40
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England

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Take a flight in a vintage helicopter

Here you are gents, this will give you some idea what it is like to fly in my favourite heli.

Click HERE

All the best,
SP
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