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11-11-2005 04:52 AM  12 years agoPost 1
mjdee14

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Anyone have any info on basic flying?

I have been flying a Blade...and now Zoom.....I'm past the hovering and into fwd flight, left, right turns...but not very pretty.

I'm an old fixed wing guy and the "yank & bank" method does not seem to work well on the helis.

I see lots of sites dedicated to setting up helis....making adjustments.....and telling you what to practice to progress along....BUT I see nowhere that explains how to do the manuvers.... You would think circles would be easy, but several times I almost loose it as the heli does not keep coming around....

Anyone got some good basic flying info???

Mike... Blade CP, HBCP2, Revo w/belt drive, Zoom 400, Eco 8, Hurricane 550, DX7 2.4

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11-11-2005 08:49 AM  12 years agoPost 2
colsy

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Not As Easy As It Looks

You got that bit right, in fact its only practice, i am not yet into aerobatics , but i can tell you if you get your hovering skills right, i,e nose in, and i mean swinging to nose-in from from both left and right side, then flying around, becomes much easier...
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11-11-2005 04:55 PM  12 years agoPost 3
derf9h

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SIM SIM SIM

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11-11-2005 06:34 PM  12 years agoPost 4
jfint

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Helicoptersd are much more finess and smooth movements on the sticks, at elast thats the way i feel when I switch back and forth, people at my field are always commenting they are amazed to see me switch back and forth from heli's to planes all day long. But it has deffinately soothed out my plane flying, cause with helis I am very concentrated on how stick movements translate into heli movements, and how to make my turns smooth. I love how a gracefull heli turn looks, i think its much more pleasing to the eyes than when i turn the thing upside down. Bu tthats just an opinion thing.

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11-13-2005 12:58 AM  12 years agoPost 5
CRB68

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Hey MJDee,

That is what the left stick is for. You have to fly coordinated turns with a heli. A plank you can get away with bank and yank. For the most part, with a non heading hold gyro you can usually get away with little TR input. With a heading hold----nope, you have fly the TR into the turn and coming back out of it.

Oh yeah,,,,,,PRACTICE, PRACTICE, and more PRACTICE.

PJ

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11-13-2005 02:01 AM  12 years agoPost 6
OICU812

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Converting a planker is like a surgery, sometimes they make it other times they just flatline,lol. I often find it funny when people at the flying feild "plankers" make their comments, they have no idea many of them just how difficult helis are to fly in comparison. No time for nose pickin and arse scratching on a heli!!!! Good luck!

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11-13-2005 08:13 AM  12 years agoPost 7
cmpang

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Hmm.... I flew planes for about 3 years. I started to fly heli a few months ago and found that even the experienced heli pilots are not able to turn the bird as smooth as a plane. Then I tried to swithch the gyro from HH to rate mode. It all worked!!

Go home and think about it and figure out that the HH is actually a mechanism that fights against natural physics. When something in fff banks, the centifigual force should render it to turn its heading. But the HH spoils it and so the pilot has to coordinate it with rudder input. That is not natural.

Just my 2c

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11-13-2005 04:04 PM  12 years agoPost 8
rcnut2

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IMO I suspect 3D pilots aren’t overly concerned about how pretty their bank turns really look like. LOL. Since I fly both, for some of the planes that I fly, they don’t bank-turn nicely unless I coordinate the turn with some rudder. This I mainly got in the habit of doing when I was flying the helis in normal or rate mode and even more predominant in HH mode. It may not sound natural, but with my experience in a real airplane (I’ve tried this), it was unnatural to un-coordinate a bank-turn. Don’t be afraid and get used to using the TR for your turns. If your heli gets into an attitude your mind can’t comprehend, drive the TR to one you’re comfortable with and regain control.

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11-13-2005 11:18 PM  12 years agoPost 9
mjdee14

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Turns....

All good advice above....I use the TR to make turns....and going to the right I can do them pretty good....the left on the other hand I almost lost it....now it was a "downwind" turn..and the wind was pretty stiff...8-12 mph....maybe that was what happened....when I tried to turn back upwind the heli almost went down.....could it have been the big area the rotor presents when its on it's side...and the wind hits it?

I do not have a good SIM on FMS...which is Ka-ka for learning actual flight....

I guess I need to try again on a calm day and see what changes from right to left turns.....

Thanks for all the helpful input....

Mike

Mike... Blade CP, HBCP2, Revo w/belt drive, Zoom 400, Eco 8, Hurricane 550, DX7 2.4

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