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11-12-2005 03:37 AM  12 years agoPost 21
Lefty and Leroy

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Hey Steve, sorry about the tease but I wanted to do a few more flights before I told you about them. Comparing the 550s to the 600s. The main difference is the length of course and the placement of the weight. On the 600s the weight is just pushed out 50mm. So the distance from the tip to the weight on both blades is the same. The weight in the grove is the same length so I’m assuming it weighs the same too. I hope you follow all of that.

I decided to cut them 575mm because that’s half way between 550 and 600 and if they were too long I could always cut them again. The new distance from the weight to the cut is 25mm. Anyway after I made the final cut I used thin CA to wick under the covering and all around the ends. Don’t want that covering pealing back.

They balanced pretty easy too. I probably could have, as you said, just bolted them on but I went ahead and did a little balancing on them so I would know for sure.

Bolted them on and without making any adjustments at all I spooled it up, the Toki hardly noticed the change. They tracked perfectly too. The rubber exhaust hose don’t shake either. In forward flight they make this nice little popping sound. I figure it’s due to the square ends. I did a few climb outs with max pitch at 12degreese at full throttle. The Toki had no problems with that either. In fact it will over spin the blades once it gets into FFF.

There was a problem with 12degreese of pitch in FFF. As you recall I added some weight to the tail to get the CG where I wanted it. In FFF and 12 degrees when I let the elevator go to neutral it would pitch up really bad. A couple of times the nose went straight up and the blade speed went way down, kind of scary. I finally took off all the weight and that pretty much took care of the pitching up problem; it still does it but not near as bad. I have since lowered my max pitch down to about 9 degrees, it just seems to fly better and it doesn’t try to go as fast either.

This post is getting a little long so I better stop. Oh yea, I did a few autos too, more about that later.

-Jim

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11-12-2005 04:07 AM  12 years agoPost 22
SteveH

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Oh yea, I did a few autos too, more about that later.
Here we go again! I know what happened, but I want to hear it from you.

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11-14-2005 12:48 AM  12 years agoPost 23
Lefty and Leroy

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Well, a few days ago my first few autos with these blades were not all that good. I had to bail on about half of the ones I tried. Seems I was having trouble getting started correctly in the windy conditions and the gusts was making things worse.

This evening after the airplane guys were done, mine was the last flight of the day. After a little low level stuff and a few fast fly-bys I decides to try an auto. In dead calm air I went for it. Well, all I can say is it comes down so much smoother than the 550s, as they should. The trick for me is starting the auto correctly then getting into the “sweet zone” as quickly as possible. When the blades start making that nice purring sound that tells me I’m in the zone. With the larger disk and the weights farther out makes the landing flair smoother and longer too.

I don’t know how everyone else likes their Hawk Pros but I’m having a lot of fun with mine, and my chopped down 600s (575s) for $22.95 makes it auto like I hoped it would. Oh, and I really like the way they sound.

Thanks for your help, and I won’t tease you any more.
-Jim

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11-19-2005 07:00 AM  12 years agoPost 24
jet_d

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Question for you Falcon oweners. I'm thinking of adding a Falcon 50 SE to my Raptor collection. I haven't seen one out in the field as most pilots out here fly TT. How would you comapre the Falcon SE to the Raptor 50 SE? Is there much of a performance difference?

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11-19-2005 08:02 AM  12 years agoPost 25
Gearhead

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jet,,, how do you want to fly it ?? as for the Raptor/Falcon comparison I'd say the Raptor is a little tighter/quicker 3D performer than the Falcon, so if you want it for 3Ding buy a Raven, I have flown a Falcon for 4 years, I love it, it's very smooth and flies very straight and parts least forever and I think it has a faster top speed out of the box than the Raptor, but I have recently changed over to a Raven to learn tighter 3D, so if your into 3Ding I think you will be happier with the Raven, the Raven is one 3Ding monster for-sure, the Raven has a very tight cyclic/collective control system and you can still use analog servos with the Raven...

good luck, and let us know what you buy..
Jim

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11-22-2005 11:00 PM  12 years agoPost 26
dsmit258

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SteveH,

Here is the new paint job for my Falcon 50V2, haven't painted the windshield yet:

David E. Smith
AMA 579111
IRCHA 2336
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11-22-2005 11:54 PM  12 years agoPost 27
SteveH

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David,

VERY nice! Is the yellow striping tape, or paint? Now I have another really good paint design as an example!

It may just be the camera angle, but in the first picture it looks like you need to double check your flybar paddle alignment.

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11-23-2005 01:08 AM  12 years agoPost 28
dsmit258

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SteveH,

You have a good eye my friend!! The flybar was off in that picture, but has since been corrected.

The yellow stripe is paint - no tape anywhere on this canopy. it is a little hard to tell in the pics, but the white has a pearl in it too. I've got one more in the works that I should get back in a few weeks. hope to have a little airbrush work on it.

David

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