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11-08-2005 07:16 PM  12 years agoPost 1
JP_Singer

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Shogun V2 VS T-Rex 450XL I cant decide if I want to keep my Shogun V2 and get the 400DH or get a T-Rex450XL and get a 430L Does anyone know which heli I would be more pleased with doing Extreme 3D? I have a feeling everyone is going to say the T-REX for 3d so if anyone is intrested in my shogun V2 minus electronics it has a few hover flights with a stock brushed motor and E-Flight Maxx 25 ESC with purple canopy with decals and purple fins, I also have an new extra set of stock blades and a couple new main and tail shafts plus a new fin set.

What would be a fair price for this its already built.

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11-09-2005 04:22 AM  12 years agoPost 2
turboomni

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There must be someone out there with their experiences but I am about to fly my Trex 450XL non CCPM as I wanted a baby Raptor which I have two.
I flew a Shogun for about a year [V1} and liked it alot with just a few mods. Mods were a Sparrow tailboom [aluminum] driveshaft and still using the early stock crown not bevel gears/. Also a aftermarket tail slider arangement to take the slop out of the tail ,,that helped alot. Only once a gear failure and a nice flying heli. I wanted more cyclic and did the bent chrome arm mod and light paddle holders but still wanted more but was livable.
I am putting in my Shogun's JGF 400DH with the CC25 but will use a 401 gyro not a CSM lightweight in the TREX.
I was/am a Shogun fan and will report back as to my findings compared to the Trex.
JP I don't know how well you fly but a micro in 3D is a good bit harder to do than a bigger nitro bird.
If you are just using a brushed motor ,you have no idea what you are getting yourself into. A Shogun with a JGF 400DH and a TP2100 is balistic!!! It is amazing vertical espectially with the crappy stock blades. The reason is they flex and with enough power they flex and grab more air and the motor can easily cope. I used to run Like90 woodies. Still lots of power but controlable even in wind.

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11-09-2005 05:38 AM  12 years agoPost 3
JP_Singer

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Romulus Michigan

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Thanks for the reply

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11-09-2005 05:52 AM  12 years agoPost 4
turboomni

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You have the Shogun,,put a 400dh in it with a good esc. Cheap! If you want more maybe the TREX is the answer for you,,but I don't know for sure

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11-09-2005 09:23 AM  12 years agoPost 5
colsy

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Hi JPSINGER,
I also have just purchased a T-REX 450XL CCPM, as i want to find out what the fuss is all about"are they really that good"
I have built mine and waiting to install radio, hopefully up this weekend for a go with her.
initial thoughts are, great kit everything is ballraced, many parts double ballraced like washout ccpm arms etc, triple balaraced main blade holders, but no thrust washers, everthing looks very strong in coparison, could mean more work when she bites the deck.
slightly larger than zoom and much heavier, i have purchased 420 LF and CC35 so we will see.
It might be worth asking this question on T-Tex forum as im sure there are a few that have migrated from the Zoom To T-Rex.
i will keep you informed of progress..
Col.......................

Only Quote From Experience.

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11-12-2005 05:48 AM  12 years agoPost 6
domenic dales

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Scarborough Ontario

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confuzed

V2 with tail shafts? Are they not all belt drives like mine. V2 is the only heli i have experience in flying. I have the v1 too But i think the shoguns are tops and i have a 400 eflite kv3700 blushless and thats what i use.
Im eyeing a raptor but my schedule sux no time to fly outside so its v2 in the bedroom OOOOHHH YAAAAAA (hmmm that didnt sound right)

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11-12-2005 09:25 AM  12 years agoPost 7
Rob_T

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Yup, you can convert a V2 to shaft drive, this is mentioned in the V2 instructions (page 17). It looks like the parts are the same as for a V1 except for needing bearings with a bigger OD to match the larger diameter of the V2 boom.

Having flown a V1, one thing I wont be doing is converting my V2 to shaft drive! Putting a belt on my V1 was the best change I ever made to it!

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11-12-2005 01:12 PM  12 years agoPost 8
JP_Singer

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Romulus Michigan

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Mine is belt driven I am talking about the shaft that conects to the tail blades.

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11-14-2005 08:49 PM  12 years agoPost 9
turboomni

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450XL first impressions

Flew 2 packs to test her out. Same motor/batteries from my Shogun
The Rex was solid as a rock and the tail was as solid as my Raptor.
Using a JustGoFly.com 400DH with TP2100's.
My Shogun V1 flew just as solid in hover .
Power was ballistic with the Shogun and this Batt/motor combo.
On the Rex it is fair to good with this combo as it is heavier.
The power on the Rex reminds me of my Raptor 30 [which is not a slouch with a Webra 36] and the same combo on my Shogun reminds me of my Raptor OS Hyper 50. The Rex is heavyier.
The Rex has much more cyclic authority and flies more like my heavier nitro machines.
The tail on the Rex is far better than my V1 Shogun and holds as well as my Raptors. Much less slop. I did use a 401 on the rex and only had a CSM200 lightweight on the Shogun BUT the rex has far less slop.
Run times were abit less too on the rex but I haven't got out to the field and really throw the rex around.
Initial feelings arethe Rex does/will have alot more 3D potential., abit better feel more like a bigger heavier nitro heli and feels like it has more mass which it does of course..
The Shogun V1 fly's just as well in the basic stuff and being lighter requires less power or longer run times with the same power as the rex.
Both are real nice heli's but very different. I am however going to get my Shogun back into the air as it has much to offer. I do still like the Shogun alot. More to come after getting to the field with it.

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