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10-10-2005 12:59 AM  12 years agoPost 1
Vitya

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I think everyone who has yet to see pictures of Chernobyl in the present should take a look. These images are frightening at worst and extreemly captivating. If any of you are gamers, I think you will realize where Half Life 2 took place.

Ghost Town

Greenpeace pics

Panorama of a city

I will add more as I find them. Apparently the first link is a little fake as they say she never rode a motorcycle there, however I find that hard to believe. They carried a motorcyle on a car? How did she get the pics then?

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10-10-2005 01:30 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Jim C

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thanks for the links, I was just thinking about that whole mess a few days ago and didnt get time to look it up to see if/ when people could or never would be back around there.

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10-10-2005 02:05 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Hawk4flyer

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if by car or by bike. The pictures are real and she was there. captivating story.

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10-10-2005 04:11 AM  12 years agoPost 4
white chocolate

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Man that is crazy!! The name sounded familiar but I honestly didnt know anything about it. Guess I should have paid attention in history.

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10-10-2005 06:29 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Steve_JR

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wow that is very sad -Steve

Steve - Mount Joy RC Club

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10-10-2005 03:32 PM  12 years agoPost 6
RCHeliJim

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Man, what a great link - really puts it all in perspective.



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10-10-2005 05:55 PM  12 years agoPost 7
smegs

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Awesome link, so much history about the accident. I always wondered what that place looks like, Now thank god I never have to go there. May all those poor people rest in peace.

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10-11-2005 12:35 AM  12 years agoPost 8
Vitya

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To be honest, I would really love to visit Ukraine. Chernobyl is something that allways fascinated me, and allways will.

I find beauty in that landscape and I honestly hope some day I see it in person.

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10-12-2005 01:36 AM  12 years agoPost 9
Heliscat

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I must have been 9 at the time. Very interesting stuff, to see the time stop right then and there. Almost 20 years ago? ..."the silence is so loud, its deafening"

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10-12-2005 02:01 AM  12 years agoPost 10
Heliscat

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Other reading I have been doing. Quite interesting to see it didn't close until 2000.

http://www.chernobyl.co.uk/

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10-12-2005 04:32 AM  12 years agoPost 11
pilotError

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Chernobyl

I work with a woman who lived near there.

The mother and her both have terrible migrains and other physical problems from the fallout. A bunch of Crazy stuff the doctors can't figure out.

She's thankful it hasn't shown up in her kids though.

Think about that... Some of her friends haven't been that lucky.

It's gotta be scary as hell wondering if that kid is gonna come out OK.

All because nobody in the gov't wanted to publicize it until it set off all the European radiation detectors.

Mike...

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10-12-2005 10:08 AM  12 years agoPost 12
Blackdog

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WOW

I reed "Ghost Town" 2 years ago. She has added roughly 8 pages to the story. Very interesting!!

Blackdog

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10-12-2005 11:00 AM  12 years agoPost 13
helirulz

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only reminds us of how dangerous nuclear power is....
i dont even know why some countries want to possess nuclear weapons.

I was watching Discovery Channel one day when they featured the Chernobyl accident.
Scary as hell when your face starts to melt because of the high radiation levels

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10-12-2005 11:39 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Lorents

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Speaking of nuclear power - the story about K-19 is quite interesting to:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/k19/#



What comes around goes around.

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10-13-2005 01:33 AM  12 years agoPost 15
Jim C

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only reminds us of how dangerous nuclear power is....
ummmm, yes and no... yes it is dangerous if they use substandard material building the thing... or goofy techs that run it.. but if done correctly, they emit less radiation than a coal burning plant.

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10-13-2005 08:36 PM  12 years agoPost 16
Vitya

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I would preffer a nuclear plant over anything else anyday. In my opinion it's better to take the small chance of a meltdown than to inhale smoke everyday. If they get fusion reactors going, that should be even better.

One thought though, why don't they build the reactors deep underground? That way it should be easier to encase them should anything go wrong.

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10-13-2005 09:19 PM  12 years agoPost 17
tadawson

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Cooling issues come to mind. Kind of hard to dissipate the excess heat into solid rock, and if you go very deep at all, the earth actually gets hotter . . . . . seems like simple thermodynamics from here . . . .

- Tim

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10-13-2005 10:18 PM  12 years agoPost 18
Salty

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and logistics....cost would exponetially go up....

Ask your Doctor if getting off your ass is right for you.

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10-13-2005 10:57 PM  12 years agoPost 19
tadawson

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For what it is worth, *any* reactor is critical when producing power. The definitions are:

Sub-critical: Not producing enough neutrons to sustain a nuclear reaction, and
active reaction will decrease.
Critical: Producing just enough neutrons to sustain a reaction.
Super-critical: Producing more neutrons than needed to sustain a reaction, as such,
the level of activity will grow.

Now, in order to explode, not only does the reactor have to be supercritical, in a massive kind of way, it has to be able to stay there long enough for enough energy to be released to cause a blast. The problem is, the release of energy causes the core to expand/disassemble, which causes it to go sub critical. Ever look at the designs of an atomic bomb, at least conceptually? All the conventional explosive is there for is to make sure that supercriticality occurs, and is sustained long enough for the blast to occur. This requires specific densities, geometries, and timings that nothing in a power reactor can create.

One of the things that was demonstrated in a nuclear engineering class I took, was that any melting of a core tends to LOWER criticality - the primary core geometry that is roughly spherical when whole, becomes a large, flat, puddle when melted into the bottom of the reactor or containment vessel, which will go sub-critical and the reaction will naturally cease. The big problem is cooling while it does - when stuff melts, coolant plumbing generally does not work so well. As such, superheated steam is what usually causes stuff to spontaneously dissassemble - not any nuclear reaction. Granted, as in the case of Chernobyl, highly contaminated material can get blown out, but had Chernobly been built with what was considered in other countries as "adequate containment", is all likelihood, nothing (or very little) would have escaped . . . .

And, the Chernobyl graphite moderated core/reactor design, has as one of it's design issues, the tendency to run away, which is why they have never been used in other countries. The USSR took that road because it was cheaper to build, and, as others have commented, generally didn't care that much about human costs . . .

- Tim

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10-14-2005 03:38 AM  12 years agoPost 20
Vitya

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I would preffer a nuclear plant over anything else anyday. In my opinion it's better to take the small chance of a meltdown than to inhale smoke everyday. If they get fusion reactors going, that should be even better.

One thought though, why don't they build the reactors deep underground? That way it should be easier to encase them should anything go wrong.

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