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10-08-2005 05:23 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Bllade

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I have a few questions that I hope you all can help me with;
1) Can anyone tell me what models the Pro metal head came on or where I can find a parts breakdown of the metal head?
I have a metal head that I would like to put on a gasser that I am putting back together if possible.

2)Also, does anyone have any information or know where I can get it on the T&T metal head? I have one I'd like to install onto my nitro XCell 60.

3) Is there an easy way or a special tool to get the little circlips ( the ones that look like a 8) on and off of the pins on the washout linkage?

TIA, John

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10-08-2005 06:56 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Dr.Ben

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John, see below:


1) Can anyone tell me what models the Pro metal head came on or where I can find a parts breakdown of the metal head?

>>There have been two versions of the "Pro" head. The first was the 0840 head which was never actually shipped as a part of a kit unless it was a factory special order. That head had extra mixing levers that mounted to the head block and was a center teetering design. MA might have a drawing they could fax to you. Parts on that head have long since been out of production and are as scarce as hen's teeth. MA has a few bits and pieces left over. Bearings aren't a problem for it.

The 0848 "Pro II" head was shipped with the ProII and the SE series of models. You can find a pics of the head on Rick's R/C Helicopter's web site under "plans" or at http://www.rchelibase.com .

2)Also, does anyone have any information or know where I can get it on the T&T metal head? I have one I'd like to install onto my nitro XCell 60.

>>Not sure where to tell you to go for that. For the most part, that head was a dimensional ali copy of the standard XC 60 rotorhead.

3) Is there an easy way or a special tool to get the little circlips ( the ones that look like a 8) on and off of the pins on the washout linkage?

>> I'm not sure"easy" ever can go with those clips , but there are ways to make it less of a bitch. Normally I'll get one started on the pin before I ever insert the pin in the assembly. You can drill a through hole the same size as the pin in a board to support the pin, then tap on the pin until the first clip is at the right place on the end of the pin. The pin moves down in the hole in the board as the clip slides along while you tap. Insert that assembly into the washout. Get the other pin started with a small screwdriver tip, then tap the second clip into its final location using the end of a very small socket (hole in the socket bigger than the pin but smaller than the clip's OD).

Ben Minor

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10-08-2005 07:57 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Bllade

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Ben,
Thanks for the info, I've got the Pro head, washout and swashplate together on a spare mainshaft, I'll try to post pics of it later and maybe someone can tell me if I have it all together correctly.

I Found a sales brochure from T&T for this head that I had in my original XCell paperwork from about 8 years ago, that picture may enable me to get it together.

Those circlips SUCK! But I did drill a small hole in my benchtop and it worked fine. Definately not something that you can disassemble while still on the Heli.

Ok, back to the shop to finish putting the gasser back together

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03-31-2016 03:27 PM  20 months agoPost 4
helimaniac

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xcell pro manual

Hi I need an xcell pro manual so I can set up the linkages correctly. Any one have it I would be willing to pay fair price. It is for the pro 1

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03-31-2016 03:33 PM  20 months agoPost 5
turboomni

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Go here this might help,

http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli/XCELL.html

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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03-31-2016 03:37 PM  20 months agoPost 6
helimaniac

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Hi Rons only has the sheets no manual I need to know linkage setup and lenghts I got a second hand Pro1

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03-31-2016 03:37 PM  20 months agoPost 7
xcellgasman101

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John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com

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03-31-2016 04:46 PM  20 months agoPost 8
MattJen

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good pic, very helpful
thanks

All The Best

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03-31-2016 05:42 PM  19 months agoPost 9
helimaniac

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shirley ny usa

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Pic is helpful but I need linkage lenghts from swash to head

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03-31-2016 06:45 PM  19 months agoPost 10
turboomni

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Do you have the original linkages or are you making up new ones? Even if you had the specified lengths it would only get you close but not spot on.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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03-31-2016 06:52 PM  19 months agoPost 11
helimaniac

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xcell pro manual

the linkages are installed but I am sure the lengths are wrong. I got this second hand and it was set up bad so I need the linkage lengths

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04-01-2016 10:30 PM  19 months agoPost 12
G. Williams

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Is that the head with the blades having some dihedral? I have one somewhere.

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04-02-2016 09:34 AM  19 months agoPost 13
slickporsche

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Pro 2K linkage lengths.

Washout to flybar control arms:10mm between the two plastic links.

FAI Set-Up: Hiller Rods 61.5mm: Swashplate to mixing arms on blade grips
Bell Rods 1mm: Short end of flybar arms to other end of mixing arms on blade grip pitch arms.

3-D Set Up with 0 pitch at half stick: Hiller Rods 61mm
Bell Rods: Ball Link Hole Center to Center 23.5 to 24mm

This came from my Pro 2K instruction manual, and most dimensions are from plastic link to link, and one of the dimensions above are from ball center to center.

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04-28-2016 06:54 AM  19 months agoPost 14
X-Cell Man

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If you still need the length of the rods or any other question just PM me and I'll give you the measurements and answer any questions. Now there were 2 SE's. Both had the #0848 head. The first SE used the same plastic servo tray as the X-Cell 60 when it first came out. Then they updated the servo tray.

They are a awesome machines!!

Dan

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