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10-08-2005 10:13 AM  12 years agoPost 1
Riverman

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Peace River, Alberta

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Hello all

I am an experienced flyer of a Eflite Blade CP and just yesterday I impulsively bought a brushless Walkera 36.
I was wondering if a someone with knowledge of helicopters and experience in setting them up and flying could comment.
All I seem to hear when asked for reviews is constant flaming and non specific comments about Walkera. Maybe I should take warning and take these comments to heart but somehow I think that these models are not being truely represented here.
A $220 Eflite model is what introduced me to RC helis, and without such an option I never would of gotten into this side of the RC hobby. I absolutely addicted now and loving it. I fully accept that a $250 model is not going to have the quality of a $1000 model. Yes, I realize the electronics and the radio gear are not par with the major players (JR, Futuaba, etc). I simply don't have the money to invest in those systems at the moment. What I want to know is that do I have a workable helicopter here once I have set it up or have I completely wasted my money? I really starting to have buyers remorce here
Brett

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10-08-2005 09:14 PM  12 years agoPost 2
ozbach

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I bought the Walkera 36 with the brushed motor...what a waste of money.....if you completely replace the electronics, it may be ok, but watch out when your battery starts to get a bit low...some times after a minute of flight "with the junk brushed motor" it will glitch and do what ever it wants...I bought a T-Rex XL HDE what a difference!!....I guess you get what you pay for!!

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10-09-2005 06:20 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Jenni

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I flew a Walkera #35 for a while before my sweetheart pushed me out of the hobby (but I'm thinking of coming back - to damned hell with marriage).

The #36 is in essence the #35 with a belt driven tail. That should (!) mean that it doesn't have the #35's notorious problem of stripped tail gears. How well the belt drive works - no idea.

The good:
- It flies quite nicely for such a cheap heli
- The spare parts are dirt cheap
- You can use some of the zoom/zap/shogun parts for replacements
- All of my birds flew right out of the box after just a general system check
- The airframe is, in my opinion, quite nice. It is forgiving enough of crashes anyway.

The electronics however are just a notch above the cheapest ones out there - believe it or not, there are worse. I'd rate them somewhere between radio shack R/C stuff and the moderately priced RTF parkflyer electronics.

The bad:
- You need to carefully check the heli over when you get it. (See below)
- The stock battery is a joke. Ditch it, and the "charger" right with it.
- Even with a brushless the heli feels a tad underpowered. That may however also be the altitude here, I flew at 7000+ feet above sea level.

In more detail...
The blade grips were never right on my helis and came either too tight or too lose. The various screws holding the head assembly and tail boom were another point of concern. They were not secured with loctite or anything. The set screws holding the cyclic pushrod were way way WAY too tight (not a problem unless you need to adjust something there...). The pushrod itself was slightly bent on one of the helis, bending it vaguely straight seemed to be fine though. Forget about using the battery that comes default with most of them. They're pathetic: too weak, often don't fully charge or not at all, and seem to be THE cause of trouble. Same goes for the... "charger"... *cough*... the stock one is criminally dangerous IMO.

Last but not least - I haven't yet seen anyone 3D these helis at all. Intuition says they're probably not up to it, although I did flip mine and land it on the gym ceiling once.

They are definitely not in the same class as the more expensive helis, but they do fly, and are a cheap way to start with helis. Would I buy another one? Yep.

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10-12-2005 01:10 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Riverman

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Peace River, Alberta

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Hrllo
I am trying the prepare everything I need to charge the stock battery that comes with the litium polymer setup Walkera 36. Anybody know what kind of battery connector the brushless ESC comes with? Also, what kind of balance plug is included on the battery? I've encountered two balance plugs sofar. One is a larger white colored connector included on an imported Chinese setup, and other is a smaller black connector included on my newly arrived 1320mah Thunder Power

Thanks, Brett

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10-16-2005 02:41 PM  12 years agoPost 5
apachedave

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Copperas Cove, TX

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Flying RC at 7000 ft PA

Hey Jenni,

What experiences do you get when you fly at th high Density Altitudes (DA) you are at? I am at 5000 ft, and so far don't have too many issues. As you can tell from my current address, I'm sort of stuck where I am at for a while.

Incidently, I sure feel it when when I am landing a full size helicopter out here at some of the higher places (7300 feet the other day in an Apache).

ApacheDave

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10-16-2005 05:45 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Jenni

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Wasatch Mountains,​Utah

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Well, compared to lower altitudes my heli always felt underpowered up here. Sluggish at takeoff and so on. At close to sealevel on the other hand it was nice and zippy. Even at about 5000 feet at the valley below it was quite a bit more responsive. Oddly it seemed to differ with weather though, but that may just have been my mind playing tricks on me.

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10-19-2005 07:35 AM  12 years agoPost 7
estarter

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CA

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Riverman,
I have the Blade CP as my first heli and just bought a RTF brush motor W#36. The NimH battery pack was missing from the package and I use TP 3S prolite 2000, after gone thru a thorough pre flight check up, most of the screws are over tightened, some are stripped, my aileron stick from the radio is sticky, re-route the Rx antenna wire...
I got her flying and hovering is very stable, the temperature of the brush motor is too hot to touch even with a large heat sink and after a 3-4 minutes hover, the motor starts loosing power (may be the esc is also heating up also which I don't know).
The W#36 hovers more stable than the Blade CP, I think the one way bearing and the HH gyro helps. The W#36 needs the brushless motor to perform.

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01-29-2006 09:42 PM  11 years agoPost 8
ozbach

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Olympia, Washington,​USA

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Just thought I would come back and update my post....I have now replaced all the electronics, the gyro, motor, speed controller,tail servo,and collective servo, and use my own futaba transmitter...the poor little copter flies ok now....but just ok!

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03-10-2006 05:55 PM  11 years agoPost 9
ozbach

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here is a short video of it...takes a bit for it to buffer, so you may want to pause the video a bit then hit play a minute later..its the walkera 36, after getting rid of the messed up electronics it came with.. at least it flies now!!!...lol http://youtube.com/watch?v=m0m-9V8yAYM

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03-14-2006 03:02 PM  11 years agoPost 10
extremeflying

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Thailand

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no offence Riverman
but i think $220 is a ripped off.
i can get one for less than $180

Oh..shiiieeettt !!!

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03-16-2006 04:15 PM  11 years agoPost 11
MrDrift

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Holly, Mi

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Well, I repair helis at a hobby shop. I had a customer bring one in for me to look over. Upon checking it out, I found:

1) The blades didn't fit the blade grips, they required the grips to be loose on the spindle bearings, causing great amounts of slop.

2) Some of the servos had stripped gears. Easily replaced with HS-55's

3) Just about all the linkage was binding in certain spots, a littke tweak and lube did the trick there.

4) It was hopelessly tail heavy, the electronics were all mounted on the rear of the heli, Moved the ESC and RX to the front, and put the battery sticking out forward to balance it.

5) Don't know if it was the ESC or motor or what, but the motor wouldn't spool up till about 1/3 throttle, it would then spin up hard enough to whip the heli around, though once it was spinning you could back teh throttle down to nothing, only to have it happen again.

Once I put several hours into it, it didn't seem as bad, and for the price it's going for, I'd expect some work. It falls under the "Good Design, Poor Execution" saying in my book. Expect to tweak it a bunch to get it to fly. Though once the issues are worked out, it should be a nice flying heli!

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03-17-2006 03:18 PM  11 years agoPost 12
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http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t222861p1/

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