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10-08-2005 06:34 AM  12 years agoPost 21
Gearhead

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I guess that all depends, do you want eCCPM, all metal swash, super nice constant tail drive, 3 bearings in each tail grip, raced washout block, 4mm flybar, simple build and forget torque-tube tail drive, best cooling system/ shroud seals around the bottom of the fan, tough no hassle clutch system, and a great set of main blades,,, then buy the Raven..

Jim

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10-08-2005 06:50 AM  12 years agoPost 22
wedge

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Get the RAVEN you will not regret it!!!!!!!!!!

Victoria BC, Canada, Century Swift,Trex SA 450, Hummingbird V3.

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10-08-2005 01:53 PM  12 years agoPost 23
DS 8717

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Dont get the EVO and you will regret it,best flying 50 made, Cheap to repair,flys on rails and super fast cyclic.

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..IF YOU LIVE IT RIGHT THATS ALL YOU NEED

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10-08-2005 03:14 PM  12 years agoPost 24
Gary Jenkins

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Evo is the best, no regrets.

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10-08-2005 03:32 PM  12 years agoPost 25
Woody218

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I have owned two Raptor 50s and a Raven 50. I have also flown an Evo. Of the three, the Evo has the best "feel" to it, it feels more like a 60 size heli, it's very stable in hover, and it has the quickest cyclic of the three.

The Raven is also a good flying heli, but if you ever have to pull the engine out, you are looking at a fairly major disassembly.

Get an Evo!!


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10-08-2005 04:09 PM  12 years agoPost 26
Helibras

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I had the Hawk 3 which is at least 2 generation older but still the same main concept and have to tell you that was a great flying machine. Very precise, reliable and light. Controls are fast and it flies great. I can imagine that a such develop machine like Raven should be awesome.

And remember that torque tube tail drive is far more efficient than belt systems so instead of spending on SuperHyper 3 glow plugs Viper Head and dual stage electronic controlled fuel pump and MP4sQ you can have tube drive.

Ricardo


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10-08-2005 04:31 PM  12 years agoPost 27
doorman

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OK......

It only depends on what you want your new heli to do.....
THERE IS NO BEST HELI.... (but there are a lot of dammed good ones..)
They are all designed about the same way and each has it's own plus's and minus's.....
After reading this post I feel that everything that I have flown in the last 15+ years was wrong and the entire time I should have only had a Raven or an Evo or a whatever....... B***S**t.... Maybe I will go to the shop and start selling off all of my helis...... and just get (2)... oh I mean (1) I still have my Evo, I sold my Raven....
Some people do not like having to dial indicate a clutch shaft.... big deal... doesn't bother me...
Some people think the shaft driven tail is more efficient..... big deal... I can't tell the differenence and I run the same equipment with a belt or a shaft..
Some feel that some may have a problem while others will not.... isn't that life in general????
Personally I do not like the Century starting set up.... I grind my coffee at home!!!! And this is my opinion and I am sticking with it....
What a BUNCH OF DIE HARDS....... go flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMA 2918-Team JR, Spin Blades, East Coast Scale Helicopter,Castle Creations

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10-08-2005 11:21 PM  12 years agoPost 28
dnts

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Israel

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OK. Now I am past my Raven 50 may his soul rest in peace. I want something else (I have my reasons...). I want to decide between R50SE and EVO. Winning heli to receive GY401, OS50Hyper/MP2Q and hi speed servos. Heli is required to do moderate 3D (tic tocs, piroflips, funnels etc) with ease and to be totally fun. Crash cost is not an issue if the heli does not have a habbit of crashing itself (18 months track record - no dumb thumbs - only mechanical failures).
Let me know what you think.
Nir

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10-08-2005 11:41 PM  12 years agoPost 29
Helibras

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TIger 50, Knight 50, Airskipper 50 and many others...

Most of them are much more I need for my skill levels and as far as I know none have any issue that disqualifies them so pick up by your feelings, by the one that touches your heart!!

Ricardo


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10-09-2005 12:46 AM  12 years agoPost 30
wedge

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"doorman" why don't you like the century starting system, I ve never had a problem with it, and never heard a complaint about one?

As for major dissasembly to remove the engine in a Raven its not. I just pull off the landing gear and one side frame, then the engine comes out. I had it out in less than 10 minutes, why is that so major???

Basicly, you just will make up your own mind on which heli you want. Don't bother me none if you get an Evo or a raptor.

Victoria BC, Canada, Century Swift,Trex SA 450, Hummingbird V3.

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10-09-2005 02:16 AM  12 years agoPost 31
doorman

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Starting System

wedge,

I have never liked having to push and turn to line things up prior to hitting the starter, and then it is engaging into plastic (or some similar material) and when it spins it sounds like you are grinding coffee.... for all of the refinements they have done to the Raven, I would have thought by now that they would have come up with something better....
I will admit that I have never had a problem with one, except for the awful noise at starting, but I have hear quite a few people complain about stripping out the part that engages.... and probably thier own fault for not lining everything up prior to hitting with the starter... to me it just is not on par with the rest of the heli.....

Just my thoughts on it!!!! Good Luck with the one that you finally do choose....

Stan

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10-09-2005 02:27 AM  12 years agoPost 32
x-planker

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I bought a evo 50 with a os 50 hyper and it is a nice machine can't wait to fly it !!!

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10-09-2005 02:53 AM  12 years agoPost 33
B.Hofferth

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walkerton in.

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dont buy any of these machines. save the cash for fuel and fly what you have. less stress in the long run. unless you buy every 50 out there you will never know what you have or dont have.

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10-09-2005 03:23 AM  12 years agoPost 34
wedge

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Victoria BC, Canada

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I guess those are valid points about the starting system, yes actually I ve heard of people breaking the fan's, but there is a reall simple fix for that, the problem lies if and when your engine is flodded and it kicks back that is when it seems to break the fan, what you do its grind the opposite side of the slot where the tee engages on a 45, that way if it kicks back it throws the start shaft out. However I have one of the Turbo CNC aluminum fans in there, so there is no chance of breaking it. As for the sound, cant say that mine sounds like a coffee grinder, and I wouldn't base my decision on buying a heli on what the start system sounds like.

I can't comment on the evo or the Raptor since I ve never worked on one or flown one. However I have heard lots of bads things about the Raptors, and never heard anything bad about the Evo's. One big reason that I bout a Century machine, is cause thats what my friend had, and besides Minature Aircraft heis, thats what people flew around here were the Century heli's.

I believe the biggest selling feature of your first heli is what everybody else is flying at you local flying spot. Cause any help you can get with your first heli is priceless. After you learn most of what you need to know, go ahead and buy something else.

Victoria BC, Canada, Century Swift,Trex SA 450, Hummingbird V3.

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10-10-2005 03:42 PM  12 years agoPost 35
HeliKopter Ken

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Gray, LA

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Thanks for all the input guys it helps to know different things about the parts and peices. I have a ton of raptor 50 parts and still not sure what to get as my 50. The Evo has been kinda on the top, but wanted to hear about others.

Thanks guys for all your Knowledge
and wisdom on the 50's

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10-11-2005 01:53 AM  12 years agoPost 36
Helibras

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Hey RaptorKen,

Wouldn’t be great to have Airskipper 50 as an alternative? We should talk to JR to get them.

Ricardo


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Vigor CS; OS 91C-Spec MPII

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