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10-06-2005 08:27 PM  12 years agoPost 1
steph

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Hi all

Has anyone tried these new flightpower li-po yet if so what do you think about them they sound very good but i am reluctant to purchase from flightpower as i have been burnt in the past so now i use thunder power
with very good results up to now but technology changes so fast these days

FP3S1P1800EVO : Flightpower Evo 11.1v 1800mah (20-30C) Lipo

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10-07-2005 07:18 AM  12 years agoPost 2
steph

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117 views on this post and no comments from anyone i think i'll leave these little li-po's alone for now untill some one has something to say about them they do look the buisness though

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10-07-2005 08:08 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Tmaster

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what's the price?

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10-07-2005 08:14 AM  12 years agoPost 4
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10-07-2005 08:43 AM  12 years agoPost 5
smoothound

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I think the cells are actually the same cells as the PolyQuest1800XP's.

I had a quick hover around in my back garden last night with mine and they are definitely better than my Gen2 TP2100's but they are quite old now and have never been checked for balance

Phil

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10-10-2005 09:46 AM  12 years agoPost 6
Dagern

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Hi,

I just bought 2 of them. They perform very well. I use them toghether with the Mega 16/15/3, and my Rex is like a rocket

~DR

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10-10-2005 10:44 AM  12 years agoPost 7
martinic

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They look terrific - just waiting for them to show up in North America.

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10-10-2005 11:16 AM  12 years agoPost 8
dankers

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These are Enerland cells as used by Polyquest, not bad cells, I use them. As is normal with Lipos the vendor makes all kind of claims that they are different, have X or Y that the competition don't..... The marketing in Oz is that FP have their own factory and these aren't Enerland cells but "better", its hype, basically, the same as the Polyquest XP.

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10-10-2005 12:13 PM  12 years agoPost 9
smoothound

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Think you'll find he has setup his own factory to assemble the packs not actually make them...

Phil

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10-10-2005 12:17 PM  12 years agoPost 10
dankers

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No point debating this, I'm passing off what I have heard and from trusted sources, anything with Lipos does surprise me anymore, too much $$$ involved.


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10-10-2005 12:22 PM  12 years agoPost 11
smoothound

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Not sure I know a guy who works with him and he told me they assemble them in their own factory not make them and that they are the same as the PQ cells

Phil

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10-10-2005 12:34 PM  12 years agoPost 12
dankers

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Cool, I'm outta here. Think I might have touched a nerve

All the Lipo vendors overstate things and spin things, there are only a handful of companies that actually make lipos that we use in our hobby (Enerland, Kokam, APL, Tronic and a couple more) yet we have a lot of "brands". Really, how much can you do with a battery? Maybe add a Carbon Fibre plate or different balancing taps - the rest is marketing. Part of this spin is called a "differentiator"; you can make it seem like your cells are better than everyone else by stating that they are special then that relates in to more sales. A lot of it is smoke and mirrors.


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10-10-2005 12:37 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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This is all getting a bit catty guys, surely how it performs is what really matters.

I've been using the 1800mah 20c pack for about two weeks now and I find it an excellent alternative to the Kokam 2000 that I have.

It's lighter, lasts a little longer (surprisingly given the mah rating) and fits the frame of my x400 much better.)

I would definitely buy more and the guys at FP gave me excellent service, even called me personally to let me know when the pack was going to arrive.

Jase

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10-10-2005 12:51 PM  12 years agoPost 14
steph

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These packs sound very good i have just bought another tp 2100 and the temps after 10 min hard flying are 50 deg c i think that this is too hot and the 2100 won't last that long we will see
The fp 1800 are a little lower in capasity and about the same weight but give a higher discharge rate allso the price is lower than the compition i might get one to try
Can you guys post your flight times and pack temps on the setup you are using please

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10-10-2005 01:06 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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Set up:

x400
Align 25a ESC
Align 2800 kv motor
Flight Power 1800mah Extreme 20c lipo
Gy 401
HS56b main servos
HDS 877 Tal servo
Hitec Electron 6 Receiver
JR 2610 Tran
Standard wooden blades

Pitch - 50 69 83 93 100
Throttle Curve - 0 30 65 85 100

Flight times 11mins on the above

I get 9-10 mins on the Kokam 2000 mah

No idea of the temp as I don't measure it - but I can touch both the motor and the heatsink quite comfortably after flying.

Jase

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10-20-2005 06:35 AM  12 years agoPost 16
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I am Julian Cox, Director and CEO AFT FlightPower. In a thread entitled FlightPower, perhaps I should use my right of reply to our Australian friend to state for the record exactly what FlightPower is:

AFT FlightPower is proud to operate as an industrial partner to Enerland through our wholly owned manufacturing facility in the Far East. Our factory receives cells from Enerland and adds our particuar value which is creating outstanding battery packs.

In addition to this our FlightPower UK distributorship business is entrusted with an Enerland (all-brands including Polyquest) exclusive in our local market. FlightPower UK distributes and vends electric power-train items from PSU to ESC in fixed-wing and helicopters. We of course actively advertise, distribute and vend FlightPower battery products in the UK and much of Europe and Scandinavia.

Naturally our manufacturing business supplies our UK distribution arm, however our manufacturing arm also suplies OEMs and RC distributors elsewhere in the world.This now includes the premier Australian distributor O'Reilly Model Products http://www.Modelflight.com.au where FlightPower has recently replaced Kokam (hence the Kokam sell-off there).

Enerland 20C bare cell production branches off into two packing houses, the Enerland's own in-house facility and our out-of-house facility.

In respect to AFT FlightPower, our unique manufacturing processes allow us to create successful Enerland 20C based packs ranging from 300mAh to 7400mAh (9,900mAh and above if required). We also produce individual packs from 2s to 12s. (7.4 - 44.4 V nominal). This compares to the 300-3700, 2s-4s range (7.4V-14.8V nominal) from any other source including Polyquest. No other battery pack maker or brand currently comes close to our breadth of range in 20C packs owing to the complexities involved.

The primary advantages of chosing a FlightPower Evo 20 implimentation of an Enerland cell is that:
You are getting 100% inbound and outbound quality control at the cell level, we don't use samples and stats, every cell gets measured.
You are getting 100% individual cell matching in every pack. Not only do we do this when others do not, we do cell matching to a standard we believe to be unsurpassed anywhere.
You also get uncompromising mechanical and electrical construction designed purely for performance, not ease of manufacture (there are no PCBs in FlightPower packs)
We do all of the above without raising the price to the retailer or end user above the minimum anywhere for an Enerland 20C cell based pack.

We take an already excellent cell technology and put out an unrivalled end product that we are proud to call FlghtPower. This, along with our pride in technical and customer support is what FlightPower is all about.

Sincerely,

Julian

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10-20-2005 07:00 AM  12 years agoPost 17
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steph, will post data as soon as I get home, after Oct 24. will use bnp data logger... unfortunately not at base at the moment...

ingo


1800 evo look very promising....

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10-20-2005 07:00 AM  12 years agoPost 18
ozace

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nice reply Julian but Danks was right. At least now we know the truth. I for one feel more comfortable using Flightpower packs now that i know the origin.

we can never have too many, can we ?

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10-20-2005 07:49 AM  12 years agoPost 19
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ozace, thanks but I'm not certain what you mean about danks being right about anything. His remarks seemed simply pointless, factually incorrect and offensive [EDIT - they have since been toned down for which I am grateful] I'm sure if danks tried to pull a stunt like the above on Charlie Wang on RC Groups he'd get a similar response. The likes of FP and TP make packs, not cells. As far as I know there has never been any confusion about that, certainly not in the FP camp.

Julian

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10-20-2005 08:14 AM  12 years agoPost 20
Paul_C

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Here's some in-flight data from a flight I had with one of those packs...

http://runryder.com/helicopter/gall..._16-10-2005.jpg

In flight, they performed really well, the same as the kokam 2000's I normally fly with, except they are a little lighter, if you look at the voltage curve you can see that they hold their voltage really well. If I needed new packs for my Trex, I would get these.

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