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10-05-2005 03:45 AM  12 years agoPost 1
kerjohn1

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On the realflight simulator the raptor 60 is alot more stable than the 30. Is this the same with the actual helicopter?

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10-05-2005 03:59 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Louisiana Helicam

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Yes

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10-05-2005 09:57 PM  12 years agoPost 3
weeman

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I think most people start with a 30 and then progress up in size as they become more skilled. I used to find my Raptor 30 awfull in the wind. I upgraded it to a 50 and it was better but still a little difficult when windy. Now i've progressed to a Predator 60/70 and it is completely different,very stable even in the wind. It beats the air in to submission and flys like its on rails.

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10-05-2005 11:38 PM  12 years agoPost 4
BarracudaHockey

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Your girl friend is right, bigger is better.

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10-06-2005 02:16 AM  12 years agoPost 5
bigfrank

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Pasco County,​Florida

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Yes bigger is more stable, but I have found that I like using my 30 for practice and doing "new" things. After you learn basic tail in hover, ther's nose in, piros, inverted...the point I makeing is that you will have the need for a 30 for a loooong time while going up the learing curve. Some people say you "outgrow" a 30 quickly...that means you can fly circuits and loops and rolls...but to learn the to fly in all orientations why not use a 30 to save money..all it has to do is hover to practice...there, I feel better now...

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10-06-2005 03:44 AM  12 years agoPost 6
BC Don

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Yup, bigger is better but smaller is cheaper to crash. I've crashed a number of Hawk Sport/Pros. With a total cost of $199 for the Hawk Sport, it can be cheaper to buy a new one than to get all the spare parts plus, you get all new bearings and oter things.

With my Raven 50 at a cost of $379, it is less expensive to get parts. Basically I can purchase 2 new Hawks for the price of a Raven.

So, I can use the Hawk for lots of practise and try new stuff and if I crash then I'm not out too much.

Furthermore, if I can do stuff with the Hawk then I can do that with a larger more powerfull, more stable bird.

Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.

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10-06-2005 07:13 AM  12 years agoPost 7
MicroDOC

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Goleta, CA

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If you're considering a Raptor 30 I think that you'd be better off getting a 50, it's more stable, more powerful and not that much more money. Parts are readily available and if you get a 30 you'll probably upgrade to a 50 anyhow, so why not start out there. That's what I did and I've been real happy. Next move will be to a 90 if I can convince my wife that I can use it to cut the grass!

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it!

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10-06-2005 03:19 PM  12 years agoPost 8
raptor90sepilot

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i started with an ergo60 moved on to a fury expert ys61 piled it in the ground.ya expencive but all furys are $250. smashed a Raptor90 SE in the ground so hard it bent the grips. i replaced the hole head to make it blue with the head $400 the head alone $200


list of parts bought --------------------price of just needed stuff

blue head--------200----------------------plastic head 20
spindel---about 10 -----------------------main shaft 10
main shaft -------15-----------------------spindel 10
flybar---------------10-----------------------flybar 10
paddles-------------15---------------------paddles 10
v-blades-----------115---------------------tt blades 100
tailboom-----------40 ---------------------- tailboom 15
______________________________________________________
total $405--------------------------------total 175
Of course you don't have to get carbon boom a metel head(anycolor)hevey duty main shaft v blades and all the expencive stuff

and I know I left out driveshaft and skids but i had them also this is for a 90 not a 60 so a 60's might be cheeper

what im trying to say is raptor 60 is the way to go because there cheep and stable

it's not if you crash it's when you crash

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10-07-2005 01:04 AM  12 years agoPost 9
Yug

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UK. Herts

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Raptor 50 is the best all rounder. Its only a tad more expensive than the 30, but has the extra stability and power to get you out of trouble. It can take you all the way to some serious 3D although you'll need to upgrade to a 50Hyper and some fast servos. My spare heli is an R50 with cheap and cheerful DS811 servos, QuickUK head, SAB blades and an SXH50. I get a flight time of 17 minutes and it can chaos. Tic tocs it can't so thats when you need the Hyper and faster servos..
60s and 90s cost twice as much to crash.

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10-07-2005 11:01 PM  12 years agoPost 10
raptor90sepilot

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i don't know if he needs a hyper 50's power yet but yes go ahead and get a 50 but get a std os 50 when you get ready for power get an os 91 or 70 or even a 61 carb (91 carb is only a little bit stronger)but that is all i had because hyper wasn't at the hobby shop yet then the motor went bad changed it to a hyper still had the 91 carb on and didn't find a change in power so there goes an extra wad of money down the drain

it's not if you crash it's when you crash

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10-07-2005 11:41 PM  12 years agoPost 11
Yug

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UK. Herts

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raptor90sepilot

You what, do you mean you had the 60M on the hyper ?
Do you reckon that works better than the standard 60LH carb ?

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10-08-2005 03:57 PM  12 years agoPost 12
raptor90sepilot

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ya i had it on the hyper but it doesn't make more power than the std 50 with the carb and maybe not realy sure didn't try a 60 LH

it's not if you crash it's when you crash

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