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10-04-2005 09:25 AM  12 years agoPost 41
bagobitz

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HELP!!! I got one of those fluorescent low energy,high efficiency lamps.but it doesent work properly.
sometimes it doesent come on at all,and it just goes out when it feels like it.
I know it said on the dimmer instructions that it wouldn't work with fluorescents,but these aren't ordinary ones and beside, that doesn't apply to me, right?
any help would be appreciated I really like it but it's so hard to control.Idon't want to dork it.

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10-04-2005 02:41 PM  12 years agoPost 42
Mark L

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Surely the forum administrator would also post that he is too busy improving the forum to change lightbulbs

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10-04-2005 04:46 PM  12 years agoPost 43
chuckhager

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I learned to change light bulbs in a simulator.

I can't do the big halogens yet, but I can change out a four foot flourscent pretty quick without breaking it now.

Gravity took out my last two bulbs. I was picking up the pieces that covered a 15' area. Good thing it didn't hurt anyone on the way down.

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10-15-2005 02:05 PM  12 years agoPost 44
gigi

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Energy Savers?

We use inverters a lot here. But those dargon chinese 14-Watt Energy Savers fluorescent lights (the kind that screw in a regular lightbulb socket) seem programmed to stop working after exactly 28.5 hours of use. What's up with that junk?!

Gigi

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10-15-2005 03:20 PM  12 years agoPost 45
RICHW

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I will be travelling to Germany. does any one know of a good light bulb store in Frankfurt? What do they call light bulbs there? How many hours should I be getting on a 90W G.E. soft white?

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10-16-2005 08:41 PM  12 years agoPost 46
webbhost

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hiya. I saw the post and thought you might be able to help. I have a hallogen lamp on my desk, but i am very scared to change it since it went off.

What kind of safety precautions should i take whilst changing the bulb, and what is the recommended distance for any watching spectators.

Also what wattage should i go for nice and powerful or something small to fit the lamp?

meh

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10-17-2005 03:10 AM  12 years agoPost 47
cudaboy_71

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whoa, whoa! talk about a loaded question. you need to do a little research first before getting into something like this. a lot of people just don't realize how expensive and time consuming something like lighting can be.

it's pretty typical for someone to be out and about and see someone with a really nice lamp and think "boy, i'd like one of those."

what they don't realize is lamps are not toys. they can be very dangerous--they get really hot, carry a lot of voltage, and if not respected--can kill!

if you are serious about getting into lighting, you need to establish a budget for yourself. and, you need to really think about the quality of lighting you will be interested in.

a lot of people think you can just run to the corner store and grab a 40wt bulb and go from there. but, there is a huge leap from incandescent to hallogen. and, you'll end up reinvesting in all your lamps, possibly the wiring, and in all likelyhood will need an entirely different skill set to service them.

now, don't get me wrong. i'm not trying to dissuade you from getting into halogen lighting. this is just a warning that you may be wading into deeper waters than you think.

here's a bit of unsolicited advice: a lot of people like to start with fluorescent lighting. it's not as basic as incandescent, and will give you plenty of quality lighting in the future if/when you move on to something more advanced like halogens or mercury vapor (very advanced). and, it will give you a good challenge in the meantime.

if you don't know the first thing about electricity, and don't have an electrician handy that can show you the basics at least, you might consider a simulator.

a lot of people, including the pros, use simulators. they're not just for beginners, either. there are times when you cannot use your lights....during the daytime for example. a simulator offers you the chance to hone your lighting skills. and it can be a lot less expensive trying advanced lighting designs and circuits on a sim rather than burning up your wiring or burning out your expensive bulbs.

simulators come in various flavors. there are some very expensive ray-tracing programs that run in the hundreds or even thousands of dollars (like Lightwave or Maya.

but, for a beginner there are free programs --like this free tool (requires java) available that will give you the flavor of lighting without the investment. just keep in mind these 'free' simulators really only give you the general feel for lighting. it's nothing close to the real thing (even the expensive simulators are only a rough models of the real world--though they are getting better all the time).

just one final warning. lighting is VERY addictive. don't be surprised if after you first get into it, you dont find yourself surrounded by all manners of lamps and artificial lighting nearly all the time....even during the daytime!

good luck.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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10-17-2005 04:39 AM  12 years agoPost 48
orlee008

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screw these bulbs, im switching to LEDs...

Flying in Miami, FL (Kendall Area)

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10-17-2005 04:59 AM  12 years agoPost 49
Balance

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Merc vapor

So, cudaboy, any advice for an intermediate lighting guy like myself? I have a little experience in the "real world" with halogen on the high voltage side. Bought a RTL kit that hooks up in the same J-box as the old incandescents did. Worked so well, I went and bought two more, and wired up one with a two-way dimmer!!! What a rush!!! Of course, needless to say, I am now hooked, and looking for the next high.

I was wondering if you could point me in the general direction on merc vapor. I stand outside under the street light in front of my house every night in awe of that big, beautiful, powerful merc light, and I just can't wait to get something up like that myself in my backyard. You know, I grew up on a farm, and we had a merc vapor out there. Maybe I should ask my dad if he put that there (I was young enough I can't remember), or if he called the electric company in for it.

I'm not really into the sims, 'cuz I am kind of an old-timer in a way (learned the hard way back before we had PC's and sims, etc.), and I learned a lot back then by trial and error.

FYI, I also have some time in on florescents, changing ballasts, etc. and with ceiling fan/lighting combos with independent controls. (Word to the wise: These things can be dangerous!! Those fan blades are heavy and spin at high RPM. If you are not careful, you could lose a hand, or worse!!! Also, make sure your fan blades are correctly balanced before operating to avoid disaster - don't ask me how I know)

So, just wondering where you might advise a guy to get into the big-time in the lighting game.

Thanks!

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10-17-2005 02:53 PM  12 years agoPost 50
webbhost

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well i saw your post and heard about the mercury vapour and decided to go for it.

Theres 1 problem.... when i connected it to the lamp, there was an earthquake and when i screwed the lamp into the desk, i did not put a bolt on the other side in order to stop the screw vibrating loose in such a case as an earthquake.

As you can imagine when it hit the floor the thing was still on and it got smashed to bits. Worst damage was on the glass head of the lightbulb, and there was less damage on the main frame of the light because it was tougher.

By the way this mercury vapour smells funny.... is it poisonous?

Let this be a lesson to all of us. Dont get anything you are not experieinced with because you will set it up wrong and when such thing as a earth quake happens things go wrong and can often be deadllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll...

meh

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10-17-2005 03:50 PM  12 years agoPost 51
cudaboy_71

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balance:

mercury vapor is really advanced lighting....beyond me really. i'm just a residential user, with some pretty sophisticated lighting (if i do say so myself) around my own house. but, you sound like you may be a contractor...or at least on even keel with one.

from my own experience i know there are 'merc vapor lights' and there are 'MERC VAPOR LIGHTS'....with one of these low-end kits you can spend $30-40 (not including wiring, j-boxes, conduit, and breakers), but, you can also spend upwards of $100 just on one high-end bulb. so, while you can see the difference in pricing, there is also a difference in quality you can see. if you have the skill to properly use the high-end stuff, you'll not be satisfied with the lower grade products.

keep in mind, there are plenty of things you can do with your current lighting if you feel like you've outgrown it. sometimes something as simple as just adding a new shade, or getting a slightly more or less powerful bulb can change the whole character of the lamp. and, there are colored bulbs as well which can change the whole feel of a room--you'd swear it isnt even the same lamp. and, like you've already discovered, there are dimmers, additional switches (to control the lighting from another/remote area).

And, don't get me started on supplementary devices like motion sensors which can automatically activate and deactivate the lights. i swear when these first came out everyone who thought they knew anything about lighting had an opinion about motion sensors:

"That's cheating"

"If you're not switching, you're not lighting"

"Relying on the sensor takes out a major skill of lighting"

"Beginners who use the sensor from the beginning never learn the proper way to turn on a light--what if a beginner gets into a situation where the light needs to be turned off for safety reasons and has never done it?"

perhaps you can talk to someone at your LCU (local contractor's union) who can answer your specific questions and help you decide on a starting point.

as for myself, i do participate in some local fun-lights (usually around Christmas each year, myself and the neighbors have exterior lighting competitions)--occasionally, i'll venture into a little 3-D...but, that's mainly limited to the much smaller, decorative incandescent holiday bulbs on a non-deciduous organic we briefly keep in the house. never for any money or other accolades.

Webhost:

it sounds like you were being as safe as you could. no matter how careful we are, and how diligent we are with our setups, external factors can still cause an accident. as long as we all follow basic safety rules the majority of incidents will not be dangerous. glad noone was hurt. sucks for your lamp though.

remember, it's not IF a bulb burns out, but WHEN. happy lighting

if it ain't broke, break it.

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10-17-2005 04:31 PM  12 years agoPost 52
webbhost

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why has my body gone a purple colour and why do i have a dizzy head. Is this serious, should i consult a doctor. The maunal only told me how to assemble, it didn't give much information about the dangers or setup

meh

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10-17-2005 08:41 PM  12 years agoPost 53
Camp

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I can't handle this. (sitting in the dark)

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10-17-2005 10:20 PM  12 years agoPost 54
webbhost

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camp get a torch. Its ideal for beginners and you cant really go wrong

meh

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10-19-2005 04:33 PM  12 years agoPost 55
jwooten

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I use the new Lithium polymer light bulbs. These are 50% more powerful than standard lighting.

Please remember to keep these in a fire-proof safe when not it use

Jimmy

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10-19-2005 10:12 PM  12 years agoPost 56
webbhost

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i heard bad stories from them. Because they generate alot of heat, and the batteries are not very stable... i mean i dont really trust a battery wrapped in shrink wrap.

Battery powered lights are nice that are more powerful thian 230V but whats the use of a light when you have no house left.

meh

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10-19-2005 10:37 PM  12 years agoPost 57
cudaboy_71

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no kidding.

i had one explode into a million razor sharp pieces on me once. and, that from only 3 feet high......with zero voltage applied!

definitely not for amateurs.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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10-20-2005 03:51 AM  12 years agoPost 58
funflyer2006

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My last name is Bonzer!

I LOVE MY EVO!!!

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10-20-2005 04:31 PM  12 years agoPost 59
webbhost

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yeah they can explode for upto 20 miinutes after switching them off.

Hoever that doesnt stop me doing some hardcore 3d lighting and chucking twice the voltage through

meh

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11-02-2005 12:06 AM  12 years agoPost 60
spritefiend

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it took me a damn hour to find this post again.

forgot about the light bulb punch line... would have made things a LOT easier on the searching.

woulda helped also had i checked the 2nd page of jokes forum.

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