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09-17-2005 08:28 PM  12 years agoPost 1
gorn

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Hi all
Just wanted to let people know that Im really very happy with my AFPD.
Graphics are great, and gotta love models flying to bits when you crash them lol.
I initially had a faulty USB to Tx cable, but Ikarus replaced that fairly quickly.
Have downloaded a heap of models from the net and now the biggest drame is, hmmmm which one do I fly today
Just one thing though.......I got the T-Rex on there now, but surely there is no way its that blooming hard to fly!
Every other model is relaxing to fly hard in comparison.
Anyway, enough of my late night boredom.
Just thought that AFPD deserves a mention on here.

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09-17-2005 11:40 PM  12 years agoPost 2
RCfan

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LOL, there's a reason it doesn't get much attention.

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09-18-2005 06:54 PM  12 years agoPost 3
bluesky123

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> .......I got the T-Rex on there now, but surely there
> is no way its that blooming hard to fly!

Try reducing the values in Travel Adj. column in Transmitter properties window.

To do that, click Controls in the main menu and Aircraft Control Settings window will open. Highlight Transmitter line and click Properties button, then Transmitter properties window will open. For each channel, which you feel is too sensitive, reduce the value in Travel Adj. column to, say, 60. This will make the corresponding channel less sensitive.

I find T-Rex in AFPD pretty sensitive as well, but, with some training, it's possible to fly it.


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09-18-2005 07:09 PM  12 years agoPost 4
gorn

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Thanks Bluesky
I always have to ask myself where people are coming from when they knock a product.
Now I understand if its crap, fair enough, but mostly what I have seen is this.....everyone else has it, so it must be fantsatic and I will get it too.
Now this is also fine if thats what lights your fire, each to there own.
But everything Ive bought to do with heli's so far, has had a lot of reading done on it before Ive spent any cash.
I screwed up a few times, namely cheaping out on servo's and not just getting a 401 gyro first off lol.
AFPD has the best graphics that I have seen of any of the syms out there.
If you think it doesnt fly like the real thing, then just take your time setting up the parrameters in the settings until you feel it does.
Ive found it to be excellent for ME.
As I said before, each to there own, and Im not knocking people for having XTR or whatever, BUT, there is , in my opinion, absolutely nothing wrong with AFPD.
Thats my rant and rave for the day lol

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09-19-2005 02:27 AM  12 years agoPost 5
rob10000

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nice post, Gorn, I'm with you!.
I bought AFP because of the superior way it models fixed wing 3d flight, especially hovering/torque rolls. I was pleasantly suprised when I tried the helis!

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09-20-2005 09:21 PM  12 years agoPost 6
rotor- shark

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well to tell you the truth..................i 've just bought aerofly pro deluxe and i've had it two days so far..............and already i have it up for sale. i cannot believe how poor this simulator is with helicopters.it is rubbish compared to reflex xtr and no mistake! the whole simulation has a serious flaw with the collective pitch response,it is too soft and spongy,the heli's hit the ground far to easily exiting a manouver.the response of the pitch should be sharp and snappy,it feels like the head speed is doing 1000 rpm,even though the info says it's doing 2100.i've tried absolutely every parameter available on the entire sim and also adjusted the radio settings in an attempt to try and correct this, and other serious flaws that i havent mentioned in this post.there is nothing i can do to get the heli to fly even remotely like a real one.i'm absolutely dismayed that anyone that has flown this simulator could possibly think it is better than reflex xtr.

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09-21-2005 05:02 PM  12 years agoPost 7
gorn

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hmmmm, well its good to actually hear from someone who has both.
Thanks for the reply

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09-21-2005 06:08 PM  12 years agoPost 8
nivlek

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Norfolk England

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I have G3 , AFPD and Reflex XTR . Taking all the features into account , I place G3 first , XTR second and AFPD third . I upgraded AFP to AFPD and was suprised that the only improvement was the graphics , the flight characteristics seemed just the same . G3 was a big improvement on G2 however .
Any of these three sims is worth having , but if I could have just the one it would have to be G3 . The ability to fly on-line is great !

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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09-21-2005 11:44 PM  12 years agoPost 9
rotor- shark

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well i've never even tried g3,or even seen somone fly it.i would like to try it before i comment on it.although this time i will wait until someone else lets me try it before i buy it,i won't be repeating the same mistake twice! by the way,is g3 available without the dummy transmitter?

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09-22-2005 08:35 AM  12 years agoPost 10
nivlek

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No , the dummy tx interlink is also the dongle , but you can plug your own tx into the interlink if you like .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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09-23-2005 09:08 AM  12 years agoPost 11
raptorheli2

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i have afpd and have had xtr. i prefer afpd to xtr as the planes in XTR are useless. i have said it before but it's true imo.

the heli's in afpd are not as good as xtr but it's not far off imo.

the comment about the pitch feeling funny puzzles me, i've never once thought the pitch was lagging, or any part lagging for that matter.

couple things i don't like with afpd is :-

1. lack of heli models (although the main ones are available)

2. i can't get a really good gyro setting for all my flight. i need to change the gain depending on what i'm doing. (good example is you can't chaos very well with the same gain needed for a hurricane (a low knife edge circle) from take off into a backwards hurricane. when you come to do the reverse it's boing city. (altough at that speed you are giving the tail a hard time on anything)

3. not as many updates as i would like.

4. all the helis need tweaked and are WELL overpowered

i have not tried g3 but i was considering getting it.

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09-23-2005 11:32 AM  12 years agoPost 12
rotor- shark

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the pitch is just one problem with the sim,another for example is the fact that there is no way to adjust the headspeed other than your radio,which is very ineffective,the speed shown on the info table is grossly over exaggerated,there is no way the response of the cyclic is the equivelent to what it says here.if you reduce the engine power out put,it seems to reduce the headspeed way too much,the heli will also rocket up into the sky with 10 degrees of pitch, no matter what engine power output is selected,totally unrealistic.i could go on and on,i spent 12 hours trying to configure it,i decided not to mention these other things originally,i was going to keep the post reasonably brief.however,from your post,i can see why you,and some others i have met like it.i did find some good points to afpd.they are this:it is quite good at recreating complicated 3d manouvers,metronomes and similar manouvers are more realistic than xtr,knife edge circle is much harder,than xtr,this is a good point.the trouble is there are so many bad points about it that they outway the couple of good points it has.of all the pilots i spoke to that like it,all liked it only because of it's response to 3d manouvers and nothing else.

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09-23-2005 11:43 AM  12 years agoPost 13
raptorheli2

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well i managed to set mine in about 10 mins pretty well. forget the numbers, set it up to fly right and go. the fury for example is damn close to my 90 in every way.

the head speed granted would be nice but it can be done in round about ways, altough as i said, you shouldn't need to do it.

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09-25-2005 08:13 PM  12 years agoPost 14
DavidNSmith

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AFPD compared to XTR
Hi, I bought XTR (the latest one) and ran it on my Sony 3Ghz laptop, 1Gb RAM, 64Mb Video and it was more like a computer game than a sim. Took it down to the local model shop and let loads of people have a go and they all agreed and suggested that it would be impossible to learn when the models flew as they did - all at high speed as though the sim 'rate' was too high. I searched to find an answer but failed and disappointedly swapped to AFPD. Now that seems more like a sim even though the graphics are nowhere near as good (Well that's my feeling anyway) and there seems far fewer ways in which to edit the surroundings, models etc.
However, since then I have swapped my old FF6 tx for a FF9 Super hoping that with new throttle curves etc m flying might improve. On the above laptop it is IMPOSSIBLE to use as for some reason the USB signal goes mad when I touch the TX - for instance in the calibration screen. Don't know what it is but seems like the laptop problem 'cos when I use it on an older desktop, it's fine.
Anyone else seen anything similar?

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09-26-2005 06:35 PM  12 years agoPost 15
rotor- shark

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xtr has a couple of minor problems,the simulation speed is slightly too high,but there is an adjustment called time expansion factor,so you can lower it to your preferance,the supplied models are not really very flyable,but there are plenty of adjustable parameters so you can set it spot on.some of the 3d manouvers are not accurate.unfortunatly,this we have to put up with.sadly the problems with aerofly cannot be corrected,there are also hardly any adjustable parameters for the models,and to not have a headspeed adjustment is one of the biggest omissions,to say that the models or sim don't need adjusting is just plain silly,when talking about any simulator

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09-27-2005 10:12 AM  12 years agoPost 16
rotor- shark

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try flying some of the scale models then come back and repeat the same statement.

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09-27-2005 10:22 AM  12 years agoPost 17
raptorheli2

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rip off britain and no changing it

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the best pilots in the world imo use AFPD. chip hyde and "doc insane".

here is a vid of the doc, btw, this is a 16 year old and yes, he flys the real thing the EXACT same. this is an exact SCALE model of his 42% toc.

http://www.flybuder.com/aeroflyvids/docvotec.WMV

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09-27-2005 10:26 AM  12 years agoPost 18
raptorheli2

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look at my post again. i'm refering to the planes.

while i'm here, what scale heli models are 3d capable in afpd? news to me and i've been using it 2 years.


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09-27-2005 10:41 AM  12 years agoPost 19
raptorheli2

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you obviously like xtr (brownie points for those who spotted it) and tbh who gives a rats ass. with everyone on here if you don't have what he or she has then you'll get it shoved down your throat constantly, funny enough, just like you are doing.

this is a personal thing, i had XTR and i found it was really poor for me and i emphasise for ME. you don't like afpd FINE. we do, leave it at that.

anyway, watch the video and see how planes are meant to fly. remember some of us fly both planes and helis and XTR just can't compete plane wise.

also, what scale ships are 3d capable??????????

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09-27-2005 02:49 PM  12 years agoPost 20
raptorheli2

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i'm afraid i don't understand a lot of your scattered english so i can't comment on all of what you say.

afpd is good imo. chip hyde once endorsed it and the doc DOES endorse it to this day. that boy is THE future of toc style planes without doubt as i'm sure most of the big guns will agree.

afpd is not mentioned on here a whole lot as i'm sure not everyone on this site is interested in planks, and why would they be on a heli forum right enough. if you fly helis it's ano brainer, get XTR, if you fly planes and helis then AFPD is the best all rounder imho.

i would never say afpd heli's are brilliant, they simply are not. they need tweaked. however, as i said i fly planes and when i tried XTR i was impressed with the helis but the planes i really didn't like.

i'm considering trying G3 at some point but if it's ANYTHING like G2 i'll leave it alone, i've seen mixed reviews of G3 so i'll need to see if someone local buys it for a quick go.

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