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05-08-2005 11:00 PM  12 years agoPost 1
mcoccia

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I hope this is right place to post this.

I have been flying now for a couple of months and I cannot get rid of the jitters/nerves I feel. This starts to happen once I am high up and flying FFF. Example the other day I tried a loop and was successful with it but I start to freeze up all the time and I am afraid that this condition will doom my Rappy .50.

Do you feel the same? Does this go away? What do you do to correct this?

Thanks
Mark

P.S. I was told by someone who was watching me that he was a experienced pilot & stated you just have to not care. I disagree with this approach because there should be a certain amount of respect for flying.

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05-08-2005 11:04 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Ted Toth

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Mark it may go away after a wreck
when you realise that a crash is not so bad some times
only a small damage is done and easy to repair
Time and experience will calm most of your jitters
If you have a sim try flying up high and look at the bottom of
your heli on the sim this way you will gain confidence

good luck

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05-08-2005 11:09 PM  12 years agoPost 3
cforcht

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ive been dealing with it for over a year now and a crash does not always get rid of them . time and experience is the only way. i still get them but by the 3rd tank im doing pretty good and the nerves are not all jacked up anymore. just burn more fuel. with time it will pass. I now can fly the first tank without fear of a coronary anymore. but im still not cool as a cucumber yet. good luck and keep at it. it does get easier



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05-08-2005 11:11 PM  12 years agoPost 4
mcoccia

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Ted,

Thank you. I have the XTR which I have been using for 4 months now I will give that try.


Thanks
mark

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05-08-2005 11:13 PM  12 years agoPost 5
mcoccia

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The other thing that really gets me going is reading about all the crashes here on RR and some of the problems the rappy has EX: The tail coming apart. I am guessing all this possibly has a affect on me.

Mark

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05-08-2005 11:30 PM  12 years agoPost 6
pcliftonjr

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Mark,

The more you fly the less you shake...until you do something new, then the shaking comes back .

If you focus on crashing you'll never advance. You will crash and it's not that bad...The way to minimize it is to practice on the SIM as much as possible; then take it to the field and fly what you've practiced.

Keeping up on your preflights will help prevent crashes due to mechanical failures. I've saved myself quite a bit of cash by taking 2-5 mins to look over my birds before a flight.

Paul

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05-08-2005 11:33 PM  12 years agoPost 7
cforcht

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most of the tail failures have been attributed to tightening the hub screws too tight. or at least that seems to be the general concensus i myself have never had a tail come apart in flight



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05-08-2005 11:38 PM  12 years agoPost 8
pcliftonjr

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cforcht,
i myself have never had a tail come apart in flight
You are a brave man to speak up like that....I couldn't bring myself to say it .

Paul

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05-08-2005 11:40 PM  12 years agoPost 9
KennyS

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Hey Mark

I have been flying now going on two years and still get the shakes, but I have learned that I have to push my self the shakes will keep me from advancing.

SO

Besides burning fuel & practicing on the sim I have started collecting extra parts for my Raptor for that just in case crash, I am finding it some what easier now because I am not as worried as much about being down. This may seem silly but its boosting my confindence level.

Good Luck & Enjoy

kennys

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05-08-2005 11:50 PM  12 years agoPost 10
mcoccia

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cforcht,

I have to agree with you. My bird has been running for 2 months now with no tail problems and I just built my buddy's Rappy .30 which is a month old and there is no problems yet So maybe I am doing the build correctly and I should just get over that.

KennyS,

I agree with you 200% on that. I guess I am not the only one which is good I really did not know if this was a normal feeling or not.


Thanks everyone
Mark

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05-09-2005 12:01 AM  12 years agoPost 11
wurthless

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Actually I think you should just enjoy it while it lasts. At 43 yrs young and done some pretty exciting things in my life i find that very few things give me that "butterfly in your stomach" feeling anymore,,,at at least not for very long. I tend to take on new things and conquer them fairly quickly and then get bored or look for more exciting things to do. Not the case with a Heli. I still laugh at myself for still getting "the feeling" each time I go out. I can say it will become easier as you go but what the hell ,,,,remember your supposed to be havin fun,,,,and the worst thing (except an injury to yourself or others) that happens in a crash is your wallet gets hurt. The heli can be rebuilt back to as good as new and you'll even have fun working on it, no heli cop is gonna come get you for a crash, you re your own worst enemy unless you focus the nerves in a positive way. JMHO,,,,Mike

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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05-09-2005 12:05 AM  12 years agoPost 12
Leif

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The shakes are normal, and as long as you're pushing yourself you'll always have them. If you think they're bad now, imagine what it's like flying with spectators (like at a fun-fly)!

That said, the best way to reduce flight anxiety is to fly WITHIN your comfort zone. Rather than reduce what you're attempting in flight, try instead INCREASING what you attempt in the simulator.

By moving far beyond your comfort zone routinely in the simulator, you'll find that the kind of flying you're doing with the real thing isn't as stressful and becomes easier.

Leif

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05-09-2005 12:47 AM  12 years agoPost 13
Yug

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Hiya, I've been flying for a year and a bit plus about 1000 hours on XTR which has got my XeroG50 into pirouetting loops, cones etc. Just lately, I have been getting far far more confident. I have had 3 bad crashes (last due to crystal failure !) BUT, I still shake badly. I can even psych myself up enough on XTR to shake badly (or anything thats really exciting come to think of it). I remember falling over after my very first flight - wobbly knees and so on.
I've got to be honest here as I allways now take Beta-blockers an hour before I fly. I don't shake anymore and can concentrate on flying unhindered, hence greater confidence. I intend to try flying without beta blockers soon.
You mentioned tails flying apart. I have researched this fairly widely, and have a simple fix:- use 21mm set screws (make them from longer ones) and grind a point to fit in the hub. Place a washer under each of the nylocs (minimises endfloat - blade wobble). The 21mm screw moves the end of the hex hole to low stress position at the end of the nut. With the standard 18mm screws, the hex hole is only about 1mm in from the inside edge of the nut and can easily shear off as you only have about 1mm square of metal !!!
PS, make sure washer doesn't bind with the grip.

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05-09-2005 03:35 AM  12 years agoPost 14
WHIP

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No coffee and lots of B12, works for me.

SOME IS GOOD, MORE IS BETTER AND TO MUCH IS JUST ENOUGH.

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05-09-2005 04:01 AM  12 years agoPost 15
cforcht

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pcliftonjr:
yeah i know i probably just cursed myself for saying that out loud but i have 4 R50's and i have been really beating the snot out of my "war pony" and its holding up just fine. I am running all V2 tails now also. dont know if it makes a difference but its working for me. I had considered making a set of tail grips with thrust bearings but until i have a failure im not sure i will go to the trouble to make them. of course when the ineveitable happens now that ive cursed myself i will wish i had just gone ahead and made them. LOL



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05-09-2005 04:04 AM  12 years agoPost 16
corey11

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Well, if you get nervous while flying, push your self. If your getting shaky when you fly high, fly higher. You will get use to it.

And the experinced pilot is some what right. You have to not worry about the helicopter. Worry about how comfortable you are flying. Just breath, and relax. You would be surprised, when you start getting shaky your probably not breathing very much. The more relaxed you are at flying, the better you will be, and the smoother you will be.

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05-09-2005 04:20 AM  12 years agoPost 17
mcoccia

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Well I do drink A LOT of coffee...this could be an issue.

The experienced guy kinda of scared me because when I asked if he still flew he said NO. So it's kinda hard for me to believe someone who does not fly or own a Heli anymore I have been trying to find someone here in NJ who is a experienced 3d pilot and who still fly's but no luck yet but I know they have to be out there somewhere.


Mark

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05-09-2005 06:14 AM  12 years agoPost 18
Darksider

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i have a friend at my club who had a pretty interesting way of calming himself down, he'd hum a tune to himself while flying, dunno why but it always calmed him down and stopped the shakes

Gareth

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05-09-2005 07:44 AM  12 years agoPost 19
caz

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Mark, as you can see you are not alone.

I shake so much it transfers to my heli
I have been flying for nearly a year now and have let my jitters hold me back,this year i intend to make progress or give up.
I dont fear crashing,its going happen at some point but my fear is down to the lack of confidence in my ability.
I have no problem on the sim and taking off,hovering and landing are not the problem.But as soon as my heli makes a move that scares me i land and give up
Not being very competative by nature i dont feel the need to keep up with people who are at the same level as i am but i do feel like a failure some days when i just let it beat me.

Have fun.

Caz

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05-09-2005 09:58 AM  12 years agoPost 20
BadAtti2de

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I keep a pack of gum in my case and chew a piece while flying. I also play music real loud so I can hear it while flying. But its weird, some days I can fly and not shake, but then like today, I was shaking real bad for no reason.

The mind is a terrible thing......................

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