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05-08-2005 02:07 AM  12 years agoPost 1
pingwin

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looks really sweet,

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/product...liber400-j.html

sincerely,
pingwin

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05-08-2005 06:25 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Dr.Ben

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Babelfished:

A few good details w/in the crummy translation.

Apparently NOT eCCPM unless the MMS is a typo. MMS = mechanical mixing system.


The maneuverability where the loop & inverted flight are possible!
Actualizing the sky efficiency which causes revolution in the electromotive helicopter!

By the electromotive helicopter, the EP caliber 400 which is born because that actualizes ultimate stunt efficiency and the possibility of 3D ƒAƒNƒ at compact size. The light weight conversion which starts in the carbon make frame and is thorough, allotting the metal make part to necessary place, being outdoor with, showing sharp stunt efficiency e.g., high accuracy you pull out operation. If the flier above the middle class person, it is possible to pull out the maneuverability which is not the engine helicopter and inferiority. The real mechanic was fully loaded to compact size, the standard where the electromotive helicopter is new was created!


From stunt flight to 3D ƒAƒNƒ actualizing the maneuverability which can be handled by the electromotive helicopter.
The 1mm thick carbon adoption mainframe the super lightweight finish high strength, actualizing rigidity.
380 class motors installed being completed. Even this way the maneuverability whose stunt is possible.
Collective pitch mechanism (variable pitch) equipment.
ƒxƒ‹ƒqƒ‰[ type seesaw head.
Stunt & 3D ƒAƒNƒ the complete symmetrical rotor air-foil blade section which it can serve.
Actualizing the slim body design whose aerodynamic drag is little with double reduction missions.
The 6mm duralmin make main mast, the alumite processing being completed aluminum make center hub and the seesaw, and so on adopting the metal part.
It makes around the head the linkage being completed from ƒXƒƒbƒVƒc, actualizing light operation.
Full bearing specification of all the 19 item packaging arrivals.
The simple control system due to the MMS mechanic of ƒXƒƒbƒVƒc position fixing.
The belt drive tail rotor whose drive resistance is little.
Therefore the quasi- completion kit of the principal part assembly being completed to assembly completion brief.
With option with installing the brush less motor of sale schedule further 3D ƒAƒNƒ OK.

Technical data
Total length 605mm
Total width 122mm
All high 219mm
Gross load Approximately 780g
(AF12V-1200NiMH battery < approximately 225g > when loading)
Main rotor diameter 646mm
Gear ratio Main 17.6: 1, tail 4.8: 1
Motor 380 classes
Battery 12V-900 - 1,200mAh nickel hydrogen (selling separately)
ƒv ƒ ƒ| 6ch4 micro servo 1 amplifier 1 gyro for each company helicopter (selling separately)


Ben Minor

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05-09-2005 03:07 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Chris.C

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Here is my little input in addition to Dr. Ben's:

EP Caliber 400 with stunt performance, 3D acrobatic capability.

With Bell-Hiller type see saw head.
19 bearings included.
MMS system with Swash plate fixed for simple control system.
The option comes with brush-less motor included for 3D acrobatic.

Cheers,

Chris

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05-09-2005 04:42 AM  12 years agoPost 4
dkshema

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Here's my input:

34,650 japanese yen = about $330.00

Carbon fiber frames. Belt driven tail.

Considering that the hot selling Trex 450X goes for about $240 - $260 when sold with a brushless motor, that $330 price isn't too bad. Carbon Fiber frames are available from third parties for the Trex, and $90 is the cheapest I've seen so far. That would put a CF Trex 450 with a BL motor in the $340 - $360 price range, and that is prior to adding other upgrades such as better mixing levers, flybar supports and arms....and the other fixes.

If Kyosho can pull this off -- a decent electric micro heli out of the box, this could be a real winner. I'd like to see one of these up close, in person.


Looks nice.

Dave

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05-09-2005 01:30 PM  12 years agoPost 5
pingwin

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thanks for more info guys.

actually, i am using trex to rebuild my confidence and keep my flying skills (just heli orientation).
I am caliber fan. Design of Caliber 60 is excellent, but c90 stopped me from progress. Not to mention my wife do not want to fly it at all. ewentually crash will ground me for long time. c90 plastic version was never brought to shops.
I hope electric would still have some good practices from big brother.
I wish Kyosho would have better custom care policy too. here in US is only caliber 30 and m24 on the market.

Regards
pingwin

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05-09-2005 06:49 PM  12 years agoPost 6
dkshema

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here in US is only caliber 30 and m24 on the market.
Kyosho recently opened a US office and distribution center. According to rumor, this move is supposed to make available in the US market, all the items that Kyosho sells, not just a select few bits and pieces that something like Great Planes did.

So far, only the M24 and Caliber 30 show up on their new US page. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is only a temporary condition.

Hopes are high. I'd really like to see more of their products available here.

Dave

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05-11-2005 04:48 PM  12 years agoPost 7
tfede

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Someone knows when it will be available ?

Federico

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10-13-2005 02:04 AM  12 years agoPost 8
HELIWIZARD

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i was told by felix and tommy at bruckner late november still has a bug they cant get out

ADDICTED TO HELIS ~ too much FUN

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10-13-2005 05:53 PM  12 years agoPost 9
HeliK

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I think the Caliber 400 will be released around November with the street price maybe like $270? You can get them in Japan already and it does do full 3D. Uses 4 micro type servos and standard everything else. It comes with a brush motor but brushless and LiPo are optional to install.

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10-14-2005 01:03 AM  12 years agoPost 10
dkshema

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I'd love to get my hands on one of these, stuff a brushless motor and LiPo in it and put it head to head with my T-Rexs. I'm guessing this one will win, no questions asked.

So now I've got to budget somehow to get a Caliber 5 fully decked out as well as this EP 400 in the next year.

Dave

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10-14-2005 08:31 AM  12 years agoPost 11
tfede

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Ok, it's enough

I'm in contact with some Jap friends to see if they can buy one for me.

Stay tuned, if i'll be succesful i'll post a ton on pics !

Federico

P.S: Dave, i bet my right hand that this new kyosho creature will cancel the Trex from our memories (especially my one, i'm having a so bad eperience with Trex....)

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10-15-2005 02:49 AM  12 years agoPost 12
dkshema

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The T-Rex isn't that bad, and flies reasonably well. It DOES take a bunch of fiddling around with, however. The parts fit and finish lack the consistency and quality of what most of us expect. Many of the other small electric helis have had their shortcomings, too. I certainly hope that the EP400 delivers quality AND performance in the same package.

Dave

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10-16-2005 07:23 AM  12 years agoPost 13
ozace

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I've had mine for a month or two and it is a nice little heli, i got it from Japan. It is not a 3d monster the head just wont allow it. It is well built and well thought out. If you want a sports flyer then this is a good choice but if you are after 3d the trex is better.

we can never have too many, can we ?

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10-29-2005 02:50 PM  12 years agoPost 14
ThomasNB

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hehe is my input. tried original setup. flyes like crap, tried brushless setup, flies like crap. in my humble oppinion. this is CRAP. buy a t rex and get satisfied at once

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10-29-2005 03:56 PM  12 years agoPost 15
littlepiston

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helihobby has it in stock

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11-27-2005 02:07 AM  12 years agoPost 16
Dwight

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Thomas,

I read your post about using a brushless motor and such but your opinion is the model still flys like crap. What exactly is your defination of crap. My 400 flys at least as well as any T-Rex I have flown or seen especially with the brushless motor and li-poly. I would challenge you or anyone else to show me where the T-Rex is superior when both machines have similar setup and equipment. I would like to make sure cost is part of the equation as the Caliber 400 comes stock with components that are upgrades for the T-Rex or other electrics.

Dwight

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