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05-06-2005 12:42 PM  12 years agoPost 1
MattJen

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Hi all
I have just recieved my new Model Heli mag and i turned to the Duncan osbourne page explaing the B test moves,

2 of them are wrong when you look at the examiners notes on BMFA site,

1st one if the hovering M - according the heli mag the M starts from the side whereas the Examiner notes say heli takes off and moves diagnolly to point 1 from the centre(ie the M is performed as if pilot is at top of m not at bottom of it )

2nd is the top hat, according to magazine it can be done tail in ?
whereas exmainers notes say it is a side on manouver, the hellie must come in side on, stop, increase height and then move accross the square and down hold then fly out.

iS IT A WONDER that it is so confusing when the BMFA has the manouvers down in the manual (2003) and then you get other top pilots doing their own variation on it.

Any comments ?

matt

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05-06-2005 01:12 PM  12 years agoPost 2
RotorHead486

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Hey,

The best thing to do is to get in touch with an examiner who is the closest to you and ask him for a set of Guidance Notes for examiners and candidates.

The notes give you step by step advice on how the moves should be performed with height/speed and positioning advice.

When i did my B Test i was....well....Crap'in myself!!!!

I fall to bits when under examination conditions but the examiners where excellant and helped me through it and put me at ease.

I would advise anybody to get in touch with the examiner who they will be booking the tests with and get a copy of the guidance notes as the test explanation in the BMFA handbook is rather poor and does not give and real explanation on the manouvers.

Have not read the article myself but i will make a note to give it a look over.

Cheers!
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05-06-2005 01:28 PM  12 years agoPost 3
MattJen

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Thanks for the reply rotorhead,

I am waiting to do my B test at flying fish training school, as soon as they get another examiner to come down to their field i will do it, i am waiting eagerly to do it, i have practiced it mega and am comfortable,
i tried doing it at the AHA opener but the hellie was failed on a loose servo horn, but i answerd all the question ok, which was the part i was nervouse at,

i have got the notes in my hand from the BMFA site and it does clearly say the M should be done as if pilot if is standing on top of it, ie take off move diagnolly to point 1 which shoud be level with your shoulder,

and in the top hat, that it is a side on manouver(like the sportsmans hovering rectangle)

thanx for the post

Matt

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05-06-2005 01:36 PM  12 years agoPost 4
smudge

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BMFA reference

All the information is here, including examiner's instructions.


http://www.bmfa.org/achievement/index.html

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05-06-2005 01:55 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Will B

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funny I've just read the article and thought exactly the same thing.

Doing my fixed wing and heli B tests on thursday with Paul Heckles (area chief examiner ).

Cheers, Will.

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05-06-2005 02:01 PM  12 years agoPost 6
RotorHead486

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Hey,

Smudge is correct, all the information and guidance notes are on the BMFA website and explain perfectly the test from start to finish and give good guidance for preparation.

(b) Perform one hovering ‘M’
The helicopter takes off from a position five metres in front of the pilot and climbs to eyelevel, where it hovers briefly. The helicopter, without turning, is then hovered diagonally backwards to a point level with the pilot and five metres to one side and again hovers for a brief period. The model is then hovered forward for ten metres where it again stops and hovers briefly. The pilot then hovers the model, without turning it, sideways for ten metres so that it passes in front of the pilot, ending five metres to the other side of the pilot and ten metres in front. After another brief hover the model moves backwards, without turning, to a
point level with and five metres to one side of the pilot where it once more hovers briefly. The model now hovers diagonally forwards toward the original take off point and hovers briefly above the take off point before landing on the original take off pad. All movements are in a straight line and at a constant speed and are carried out with the
skids level with the pilot’s eyes.

(c) Perform one ‘Top Hat’
The pilot should now turn to face crosswind and should hover the model to a position about ten metres out and fifteen metres downwind from where they are standing, with the skids at eye level and the model facing into wind. The model now moves forward at the normal hovering pace for five metres, stops and hovers briefly. then climbs vertically for two metres before briefly hovering again. The pilot will now hover the model forward for ten metres so that the model passes the pilot sideways on to them as they face crosswind. The model again hovers briefly and the pilot now causes the model to descend two metres until the skids are once again at eye level where it again hovers briefly. The model now moves forward for another five metres which concludes the manoeuvre.The model, still with skids at eye level, must then be hovered back to the landing pad and landed smoothly and steadily.
The speed during the top hat should approximate to a normal walking pace, and the heading is constant throughout. The entry and exit to the manoeuvre is a test of the pilots ability to correctly position the model. The model should not drift away from or toward the pilot significantly and the model should be under accurate control for the whole manoeuvre.

Cheers!
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05-06-2005 02:06 PM  12 years agoPost 7
MattJen

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Cheers again rotorhead,

so i was correct in saying the explanation in model helli world mag is wrong,

i am taking my B test as soon as possible, and i have always been taught the M is a test of side on hovering as is the Top hat,
which you rightly stated in your post.

I knew i was right but wanted to get confirmation.!

thanx guys

have a good month flying

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